*Tema mítico* : ORO y PLATA POST OFICIAL

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“Everyone has different time frames for their investments. Some are buying short term call options, some are buying silver miners, some are buying $PSLV, some are buying physical silver and storing it away for years.

This post is about the 5-10 year time frame for silver and why I think everyone should own a mixture of silver miners and physical silver.

If you look at the long term trends in silver mine production, it is very obvious that global silver mine production PEAKED around 2015-2016 at 893 million oz per year (or 25,500 metric tons). Since 2016, total silver mine production has declined by 1% to 4% each year to 798 million oz in 2020.

r/Wallstreetsilver - Silver Consumption VS Silver Production Next 5-10 years
Peak Silver was 2015-2016, since then we have been in decline

The figure for 2020 silver mine production might be a bit lower than it should have been for 2020, due to the bichito issues. Without the bichito, perhaps global production would have been closer to 810 to 820 million oz. But I suspect we still would have seen a decline from 2019 with the previously established trend.

If we take the current trends, adding back a bit more for 2020 to account for the bichito hiccup, then project forward into time with a 2.5% decline rate in production, here is what I think is likely.



r/Wallstreetsilver - Silver Consumption VS Silver Production Next 5-10 years
Global Silver Mine Future Production (Projected)

Some people argue that global silver mine production will increase, because there are new mines in development. That is generally true, there are always new mines coming online. However, they are generally smaller and have inferior ore grades compared to the big silver mines we discovered decades ago and that are now depleted.

Here is a chart on Silver ore grades declining in the industry for the past 15 years. It should be obvious to everyone that the big and easy silver has already been mined. We are only finding the lesser deposits now. The ore in the current mines continues to become worse and worse, which is why the decline in global silver production is likely to continue.



r/Wallstreetsilver - Silver Consumption VS Silver Production Next 5-10 years
Average Yield of Silver Oz

Now let's look at the demand side. Currently industrial consumption of silver has been around 500 million oz per year. And with electric cars and hybrids, that is expected to grow. The automotive sector is just one that requires higher quantities of silver as we electrify our systems.


r/Wallstreetsilver - Silver Consumption VS Silver Production Next 5-10 years
Any silver that doesn't get consumed by industry, is usually used to make 1,000 oz bars (Comex/LBMA) and the various types of mint coins/bars that are sold to retail buyers (that is us, the silverbacks). In recent years that has been 200 to 250 million oz per year.

So I think you can see where this is heading by the year 2025 to 2030.

There is a real supply crunch coming for global silver supply. At some point in this process, someone is not going to get their required silver for industrial demand.

MY FINAL THOUGHTS (tldr)

I suspect what will happen, as demand for silver grows and supply declines, the first customers to get squeezed out will be the coins and bars for retail. Also the 1,000 oz bars sent to Comex and LBMA. It is clear to me that industrial demand will get their silver because they can outbid everyone else.

  • My recommendation is to grab as many 10 oz to 100 oz bars that you can in the next few years. There is going to come a point within the next 5-10 years where they are simply not for sale any longer for retail customers. All of those American Silver Eagles and Canadian Maple Leafs are going to trade at prices where Gold trades today, well over $1,000 per oz.
  • Invest long term in any silver miner that has a reasonably decent sized silver project in the ground. 100 million oz of silver in the ground is going to be considered like gold is today within the next 5-10 years.
  • I am not that much into options because that is too short term, but you can think about these exploration/development stage silver miners as options that don't expire. At some point in the future, the larger miners Pan American Silver, First Majestic, etc will come looking to grab these development projects.
KEEP STACKING

KEEP BUYING SILVER MINERS FOR LONG TERM HOLD

THIS IS THE WAY”
 

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Pues claro que te hablo de armas de avancarga, hablo de réplicas porque encontrar originales es una odisea, no porque sean de mentira. Por eso necesitas licencia, la diferencia con un arma actual es lo laborioso del proceso de carga y que los rifles son monotiro y los revólveres hay que amartillarlos, por lo demás casi mejor que te peguen un tiro con una 9mm actual antes que con un colt rellenito.
yo tengo las licencias E, D, F y AER
te aseguro que un colt saa de 45 long colt es un arma impresionante, lleva un proyectil de 250 grains que a 25 m atraviesa sin problemas un tablón de pino de 7cm
 

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“Everyone has different time frames for their investments. Some are buying short term call options, some are buying silver miners, some are buying $PSLV, some are buying physical silver and storing it away for years.

This post is about the 5-10 year time frame for silver and why I think everyone should own a mixture of silver miners and physical silver.

If you look at the long term trends in silver mine production, it is very obvious that global silver mine production PEAKED around 2015-2016 at 893 million oz per year (or 25,500 metric tons). Since 2016, total silver mine production has declined by 1% to 4% each year to 798 million oz in 2020.

r/Wallstreetsilver - Silver Consumption VS Silver Production Next 5-10 years
Peak Silver was 2015-2016, since then we have been in decline

The figure for 2020 silver mine production might be a bit lower than it should have been for 2020, due to the bichito issues. Without the bichito, perhaps global production would have been closer to 810 to 820 million oz. But I suspect we still would have seen a decline from 2019 with the previously established trend.

If we take the current trends, adding back a bit more for 2020 to account for the bichito hiccup, then project forward into time with a 2.5% decline rate in production, here is what I think is likely.



r/Wallstreetsilver - Silver Consumption VS Silver Production Next 5-10 years
Global Silver Mine Future Production (Projected)

Some people argue that global silver mine production will increase, because there are new mines in development. That is generally true, there are always new mines coming online. However, they are generally smaller and have inferior ore grades compared to the big silver mines we discovered decades ago and that are now depleted.

Here is a chart on Silver ore grades declining in the industry for the past 15 years. It should be obvious to everyone that the big and easy silver has already been mined. We are only finding the lesser deposits now. The ore in the current mines continues to become worse and worse, which is why the decline in global silver production is likely to continue.



r/Wallstreetsilver - Silver Consumption VS Silver Production Next 5-10 years
Average Yield of Silver Oz

Now let's look at the demand side. Currently industrial consumption of silver has been around 500 million oz per year. And with electric cars and hybrids, that is expected to grow. The automotive sector is just one that requires higher quantities of silver as we electrify our systems.


r/Wallstreetsilver - Silver Consumption VS Silver Production Next 5-10 years
Any silver that doesn't get consumed by industry, is usually used to make 1,000 oz bars (Comex/LBMA) and the various types of mint coins/bars that are sold to retail buyers (that is us, the silverbacks). In recent years that has been 200 to 250 million oz per year.

So I think you can see where this is heading by the year 2025 to 2030.

There is a real supply crunch coming for global silver supply. At some point in this process, someone is not going to get their required silver for industrial demand.

MY FINAL THOUGHTS (tldr)

I suspect what will happen, as demand for silver grows and supply declines, the first customers to get squeezed out will be the coins and bars for retail. Also the 1,000 oz bars sent to Comex and LBMA. It is clear to me that industrial demand will get their silver because they can outbid everyone else.

  • My recommendation is to grab as many 10 oz to 100 oz bars that you can in the next few years. There is going to come a point within the next 5-10 years where they are simply not for sale any longer for retail customers. All of those American Silver Eagles and Canadian Maple Leafs are going to trade at prices where Gold trades today, well over $1,000 per oz.
  • Invest long term in any silver miner that has a reasonably decent sized silver project in the ground. 100 million oz of silver in the ground is going to be considered like gold is today within the next 5-10 years.
  • I am not that much into options because that is too short term, but you can think about these exploration/development stage silver miners as options that don't expire. At some point in the future, the larger miners Pan American Silver, First Majestic, etc will come looking to grab these development projects.
KEEP STACKING

KEEP BUYING SILVER MINERS FOR LONG TERM HOLD

THIS IS THE WAY”
Interesante el análisis de Reddit, aunque en una cosa discrepo ligeramente.

Me parece razonable y lógico que, debido al aumento de la demanda por la industria del automóivl, el precio de la plata suba en los próximos años, pero veo poco probable que alcance los 1000 $ que él nos plantea.

Primero, para hacer un cálculo más ajustado sería interesante saber qué cantidad aproximada de plata se utiliza actualmente en la fabricación de un coche híbrido / eléctrico. Y en segundo lugar, creo que el autor del post no ha tenido en cuenta que algunos de los planes de la agenda 2030 son limitar la libertad de movimiento del ciudadano medio y, a su vez, extender el uso del coche compartido. Por lo que el parque automovilístico particular se va a reducir drásticamente.
 

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Interesante el análisis de Reddit, aunque en una cosa discrepo ligeramente.

Me parece razonable y lógico que, debido al aumento de la demanda por la industria del automóivl, el precio de la plata suba en los próximos años, pero veo poco probable que alcance los 1000 $ que él nos plantea.

Primero, para hacer un cálculo más ajustado sería interesante saber qué cantidad aproximada de plata se utiliza actualmente en la fabricación de un coche híbrido / eléctrico. Y en segundo lugar, creo que el autor del post no ha tenido en cuenta que algunos de los planes de la agenda 2030 son limitar la libertad de movimiento del ciudadano medio y, a su vez, extender el uso del coche compartido. Por lo que el parque automovilístico particular se va a reducir drásticamente.
Más que en los coches eléctricos la plata se usará, entre otras cosas, en las placas solares, y ahí sí que está garantizada una muy alta demanda.
 

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mmm...k sois , d la DEA ???
Prepararsus para récords de volketes de fin de fiesta , marte petáo de Gold por el suelo, entre las lechugas y la de diox ... k las Reservas de Valor de montaña rusa van contra reló.

 

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Prepararsus para récords de volketes de fin de fiesta , marte petáo de Gold por el suelo, entre las lechugas y la de diox ... k las Reservas de Valor de montaña rusa van contra reló.

En España como no consuman los políticos y funcionarios, será deflación lo que tengamos.
 

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mmm...k sois , d la DEA ???
En España como no consuman los políticos y funcionarios, será deflación lo que tengamos.
En el hilo ya hay sugerencias pa´comer casi sin pasta en Hezpaña . Kien kiera kedarse a gastarse sus joyitas en lechugas...él mismo...

Pero vamos, una opción...como otra cualkiera...

 
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yo tengo las licencias E, D, F y AER
te aseguro que un colt saa de 45 long colt es un arma impresionante, lleva un proyectil de 250 grains que a 25 m atraviesa sin problemas un tablón de pino de 7cm
¿Lo tienes guiado en AER? ¿o en F? ¿El cartucho de pólvora negra, o nitro?
 

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En el hilo ya hay sugerencias pa´comer casi sin pasta en Hezpaña . Kien kiera kedarse a gastarse sus joyitas en lechugas...él mismo...

Pero vamos, una opción...como otra cualkiera...

Con la cantidad de pastelitos y hezs que se han consumido durante el confinamiento, no habrá lechuga para tanto obeso diabético.
 

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mmm...k sois , d la DEA ???
Con la cantidad de pastelitos y hezs que se han consumido durante el confinamiento, no habrá lechuga para tanto obeso diabético.
Sep,sep...en diabetes y lechugas ví a estar pensando yo con semejante marranada montada. Y en dieta de insectos , como ya deslizan...

Pastelitos...pero los del futuro, vive diox. K con esta banda de alacranes , lo mismo son dos telediarios, mirusté...
 

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En AER no existe guía del arma, se reseñan en el libro del coleccionista y la licencia AER te permite tirar con el arma en galería o campo de tiro, para que te concedan coleccionista y AER te suelen pedir que tengas previamente la F, y estés asociado a un club, necesita armero grado III.
 

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Ataque frontal al precio del oro, veremos cuando abra el mercado USA cuánto más baja.

Aprovechad para cargar porque me temo que lo vamos a tener este fin de semana sobre los 1750 $ / 1450 €, para despuntar hasta final de año.