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Sanitas patient waited 18 months for appointment that appeared upon paying
A Sanitas insured waited over a year and a half for an appointment that appeared when switching to private patient status. Users calculate the cost of premiums versus out-of-pocket fees.
No appointment with insurance; agenda opens instantly when paying out-of-pocket
A patient with a Sanitas policy reports waiting more than a year and a half for a trinc-up appointment at a clinic in Albacete. Every call received the same response: the specialist's schedule was closed, and they would be notified later. He logged into Quirón's patient portal with his credentials, insisted via digital channels, and the system returned the identical message. Until he saw a checkbox: private patient. He marked it, accepted the notice committing him to pay the doctor's fees, and the agenda peine like the Red Sea. Available days, to choose calmly.
He filed a complaint on the portal and was called the next day. The explanation, according to his account, was that responsibility lay with the specialist and they would try to manage the appointment as soon as possible. Translation: with insurance, a queue; without insurance, an immediate slot.
What happens when insurance pays €20 and the individual pays €150?
In the same thread, Adeslas patients with high-tier policies and complete family units describe the same sequence: annual check-ups cut short, postponed tests, and a schedule that unlocks as soon as you say you are paying yourself. €100 per consultation is the figure repeated as the master key.
The most circulating explanation relates to fee schedules. One user argues that a specialist earns around €20 per mutual insurance consultation and €150 in private practice. With that difference, the logic of the center would be to fill the agenda first with what generates revenue. Another user claims that contracted clinics open slots for insured patients only when convenient, once a week or month, and these do not appear by phone or internet: one must go physically and negotiate with reception.
Is private healthcare the same as private health insurance?
No. The hospital and doctor are financed similarly, but the insurer decides if you are profitable. This distinction, which seems semantic, explains the bottleneck. The company pays a fixed, low tariff; the center adjusts the volume of available slots to that tariff; the insured waits. If the same patient enters as a private payer, the center bills market price and the slot appears.
Some argue the problem is not private healthcare but cheap insurance, and that for €50 a month one cannot expect immediate access to a specialist with years of training. A user calculates that 18 months of premiums at €50 amount to €900, which would not cover even a fraction of what that same specialist would cost at private consultation rates. Others counter that the issue is not the premium price, but that the policy is sold as priority access and then rationed through the back door.
Public system collapse as background
The conversation quickly shifts to the other side. Several accounts describe waits of 20 months for non-serious conditions in public healthcare, noting that many heal themselves while waiting. Serious cases, they agree, are treated reasonably well. The result described is a two-estimulante ilegal system where insured private care is used for urgent and minor issues, public care for serious ones, and paid private care as a shortcut when the calendar tightens.
The case of Muface also appears, with centers limiting to two weekly appointments for certain insurance types, as if there were parallel agendas depending on the policy. And the observation that many specialists work simultaneously in both systems, generating obvious incentives regarding where they allocate their hours.
The uncomfortable conclusion: paying twice for the same thing
The emerging pattern is that of a market where the monthly premium buys a door that is often closed, and the out-of-pocket consultation buys the same door open. Those who can afford it pay twice: the quota and the fee. Those who cannot, wait. The question left hanging is not whether the system works, but for whom.
Summary of a discussion on Burbuja.info - Foro de economía, actualidad y política., translated from Spanish and reviewed before publication.
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