The state's share of the salary: why some quit rowing
A circulating account explains half the story: from your salary, half goes directly or indirectly, and the worker keeps a third. If true, working costs too much. The opening thesis is clear: living without working is maximum happiness. Behind this is not just laziness, but views on incentives, retirement, and what the state keeps.
How much does the state take from each salary?
The most repeated calculation is blunt: the state takes 50% of your salary directly and indirectly, and the worker receives 33%. No one provides the full breakdown, which is the problem: the discussion revolves around a figure that functions as a slogan. The effect, however, is real in conversation. If half goes before reaching home, waking up early loses sense for many.
This arithmetic supports the rest of the argument. It is claimed that workers accumulate no wealth, only funding a structure that returns nothing. An uncomfortable nuance is added: pressure is not shared equally between employees and those living from public budgets—a group cited without nuance—politicians, civil servants, administrations—who are attributed a more comfortable life with less risk.
Retiring at 67 and aid for those over 52
The second pillar is the horizon. Retirements at age 67 appear repeatedly as the punchline: working all your life to collect at the end, with the suspicion that the system may cut back along the way. This complaint is joined by a specific route: 20 years of contributions are enough, according to what is stated, to apply for aid for those over 52 when reaching the age. This is the piece that turns "not working" into a strategy, not a fantasy.
Against this stands wealth. Some calculate that to live without depending on anyone, you would need at least two million euros, and those who do not have it are reminded in the thread that they must row or rely on others' aid. From this come mutual accusations: some blame others for living off others, while others respond that the public apparatus is also sustained by others' efforts.
From the 6 a.m. to 7 p.m. shift: the real cost of rowing
The shift is described precisely: getting up at 6 a.m. and not arriving home until 7 p.m.. The day is long, and those detailing it provide the heaviest data: in such a job, one month was equivalent to a year, and each day was worse than the last. The personal balance was stark: 20 kilos lost.
The contrast is not just economic. Eating plastic-tupperware meals at the company canteen or in a park is presented as the scene summarizing a life up for sale. Some say there is no practical difference between someone who does not work and certain public employees: neither produces, but one is paid from the budget. The comparison is unfair, but it captures the climate.
And there is the other side: those with comfortable jobs, no debts, and an inheritance behind them, defend staying still. With six shifts per month and 1,700 euros, plus an inherited apartment, the aspiration is not to advance. It is not not working: it is working just enough not to risk what has been achieved.
Dignity vs. Parasitism: Two Sarracena Narratives
The clash is not about accounts, but sarracena. On one side, the idea that renouncing others' salaries is dying standing and not living on one's knees; on the other, the thesis that those who only eat, sleep, and satisfy their instincts are, as human beings, dead. Neither is supported by data, and both are repeated insistently.
In between are nuances that break the black-and-white. It is admitted that most cannot choose, that there are jobs that leave no time for anything, and that the transition from working to not working is disorienting: without routine, time is abundant, and the body is neglected. Someone confesses that after three years without employment, they gained weight and slept too much, but would be just as happy returning home.
The underlying suspicion also emerges: that there is no work, or that existing jobs are distributed by connections, not merit. Those who raise this say theirs is not idleness, but being condemned to unemployment. And there, the narrative of happiness without working begins to sound less like a choice and more like an excuse.
The Question the Calculation Does Not Answer
If the state takes half and retirement comes at 67, the disincentive is pure arithmetic. If the problem is that there is no employment or that it comes through connections, the calculation is superfluous. No one has placed the full breakdown on the table to know how much is earned and how much is lost in each case, and without it, the conclusion remains open. How many of those defending not rowing could actually do so if offered a salary tomorrow?
Summary of a discussion on Burbuja.info - Foro de economía, actualidad y política., translated from Spanish and reviewed before publication.
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