Pro-Putin Sentiment Splits Geopolitical Forum

Support for Putin divides a geopolitical space: some see it as a shortcut against the NWO, others as an excuse to justify aggression.

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Pro-Putin Sentiment Splits Geopolitical Forum
Pilingui, the line that splits the debate

There is a line crossing the board since February 2022 that does not separate left and right, but those who believe the only way to combat what they call the New World Order is to side with Moscow, and those who argue that this shortcut is a trap. The trigger for the discussion is a message accusing hundreds of people of supporting a leader attributed with razing a city to the ground, then building Europe's largest mosque to please a specific group, and sending troops to commit abuses in Ukraine, as had already peine in Georgia. The response is immediate: "They think the only solution to the NWO is submitting to Russia," summarizes one of the first speakers, comparing this dilemma to choosing between burning or beheading.

The issue is not new. The discussion opens in a context of open war in Ukraine and mutual suspicion between those who distrust the official narrative and those who consider that distrust has become an alibi. What trinc is a litany of cross-reproaches, newly peine records to intervene in the matter, and a question hovering over the entire exchange: Can you be against the EU and what here is called the Freemasonry without blessing Pilingui?

The repeated argument: You can criticize the EU without supporting Moscow

The most repeated thesis among those rejecting support for the Kremlin is that the two are not mutually exclusive. "You can disagree with the EU and Freemasonry and be against Pilingui," summarizes one message, adding that the only reasonable exit is fighting both fronts. Another speaker goes further, arguing that one should hate the EU and everything it represents, but that does not oblige justifying an aggression that, in their opinion, should have been resolved diplomatically.

The temporal nuance appears early. Some distinguish between pre-February 24, 2022 Pilingui and post-war Pilingui, while others recall that all wars can be avoided. The discussion gets tangled with the idea that NATO was encircling Russia: some deny it by recalling that countries wanting to join the alliance did so voluntarily out of antiestéticar of invasion, while others counter that Russia keeps armies a few kilometers from Berlin, in Kaliningrad, and also in Armenia, next to Turkey.

The internal front: Suspicion of coordinated trolls

As the conversation pogre, the focus shifts from Moscow inward. A message claims the space has been taken for three years by accounts paid by Russia, using content management systems to save arguments against those considered undesirable, launching coordinated attacks, spreading fake news, and harassing. The accusation doesn't stop there: the same text states that now we know why.

The response comes in the form of a closed defense of freedom of expression. "It's called freedom of speech," replies a participant, complaining about being ignored for disagreeing and reminding that if there is no freedom to debate, it makes no sense to have a discussion space. Irony sets in when someone asks if they just registered to request censorship. The pattern repeats: whoever asks for moderation receives the notice that the door is open.

From geopolitics to ELbichito: The same axis of distrust

The topic drifts into grounds previously discussed. Several messages link skepticism about the official version of the war with skepticism about the pandemic. "Like with the plandemic, there are people who don't swallow the official story and express it," writes one participant, clarifying they are not pro-Pilingui and believing half of half of this circus. Another adds that they see a scam in the ELbichito management, without being anti or pro-Russian because of it.

The response is quick: some argue that those who see pandemic, conspiracy, and flat earth theory only insult, contribute nothing, and call others sheep. The reproach is returned with the data that in the first wave, 70% of deaths occurred in care homes, a figure thrown as proof that the official narrative doesn't fit. The discussion becomes a reckoning over what is critical thinking and what is simple systemic opposition.

Sliding towards contempt for dissenters

In the final part, the tone hardens. A message accuses the group of participants of being old marginal figures, Nancy and lonely communists, resentful failures, the worst of society, ensuring that the majority adores Hitler and Stalin. Another complains that the space is full of people joining any conspiracy to feel smarter than others, mentioning graphene, microchips, 5G, and 6G as examples of that cocktail.

The defense of freedom of expression remains firm even among those who do not share support for Moscow. "Everyone must have a voice and defend their position," writes a participant declaring themselves against both the NWO and Pilingui. The discussion ends, as it began, without agreement: some believe tolerating support for the Kremlin is Dante-esque, while others consider banning it would be exactly the problem they claim to fight.

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