Pizza costing more than a lunch menu: the margin business
According to the forum user who started the thread, a complete lunch menu costs 12 euros, while a family four-cheese pizza, made with the same dough of flour, water, and yeast, averages 14 euros in their city. The math doesn't add up for those sitting at the table, leading to a recurring outcry: the price of Italian food has decoupled from production costs. This complaint resurfaces whenever flour and electricity prices rise.
What does it really cost to make a pizza at home?
Less than the menu suggests. One participant calculates that the dough costs around 0.15 euros. Raw grated tomato, some cheese, and the oven: a homemade pizza stays between 2 and 3 euros. Already made, in the supermarket, about 3 euros. Compared to the 14 euros for a family size at a restaurant, the gap exceeds fourfold. Hence, some have stopped buying it: moving from paying 10 or 11 euros to not returning at all. Those who calculate at home don't understand the restaurant menu, and those who make it in restaurants don't understand those who make it at home.
The restaurant margin isn't what it seems
Here the story splits. As one participant argues, a business with high margins isn't easy: margins are set by the sector, and competitors offering the same hardly differentiate. What matters is how many units are sold and the cost of selling them. Rent, staff, electricity, and gas don't fit into the dough. And inputs have moved: according to another forum user, flour and energy have doubled in price since the Ukraine war, along with ham, cheese, and tomatoes. Regarding tomatoes, a recurring explanation circulates: greenhouses in northern Europe heated by Russian gas are no longer profitable and now buy from Spain. The other side of the coin is less visible: keeping a table occupied for an hour also costs money, and that isn't covered by flour.
How much of Italian cuisine is marketing?
More than its recipe book admits, as argued in the thread. Until the 1950s, most Italians had never heard of pizza: it was street food from the south, and even in the 1970s it seemed exotic to northern Italians. Carbonara doesn't come from any grandmother: it was born in 1944 in Riccione, at a dinner for the US army, with bacon, cream, cheese, and powdered egg yolk brought by Americans, according to food historian Luca Cesari. Guanciale, now sold as an identity marker against bacon, dates from the 1990s. Panettone comes from the industrial bakery Motta, from the 1920s. The label, in summary, is paid separately.
Is Italian cuisine overvalued?
Mostly answered that not entirely. The recipe book goes far beyond pizza and pasta: first-class cured meats and cheeses, risottos, soup dishes, desserts, coffee, and liqueurs that stand alone, with enormous variety in a small territory. The criticism isn't against the cuisine, but against the price at which its cheapest part is exported. And here enters the Spanish mirror: some argue that traditional Spanish cuisine is light-years ahead, especially when fish and seafood are involved, although it is also warned that certain starred restaurants have rewritten dishes that were previously made well. The problem isn't that expensive things are expensive, but that cheap things are sold as expensive.
The lunch menu, sushi, and kebab: the same pattern
Pizza suffers the same fate as the rest of urban dining. An all-you-can-eat pizza buffet is advertised at 6.95 euros. Fifteen pieces of sushi, 20 euros. A hamburger with beer, 8 euros minimum, and that's in a neighborhood bar. It is also argued that at least kebabs spend something on fatty meat, while pizza is just flour and little else. The lunch menu is the exception that proves the rule: defended as the best ratio of quantity, price, and quality, it is lamented that it is disappearing while fast-food places call any offering a menu. Ice creams enter the same list, with fruit sorbets nearly disappearing in favor of syrup on a white base.
The disconcerting data remains. In Italy, a pizza is bought for 5 euros, according to some; others reply that anyone paying that hasn't stepped into a real pizzeria. The same dough, the same tomato, and the same oven cost 0.15 euros before someone puts it on a plate. The rest —the tablecloth, the waiter, the air conditioning, and the name on the menu— is what you pay. How much of that is cooking and how much is showcase remains unanswered.
Summary of a discussion on Burbuja.info - Foro de economía, actualidad y política., translated from Spanish and reviewed before publication.
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