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Slutet på det svenska coronaexperimentet | SvD

The end of the Swedish corona experiment

The public health authority has been transformed from a commander into a troublesome little sibling. The Swedish corona exemption may thus be coming to an end, exactly five years after the government dumped another deviation - the Swedish refugee policy.

"We have seen this dramatic increase in a very short time and we must act on that reality," said Stefan Löfven.

The Swedish exception was over and the Prime Minister presented the proposals that would make Sweden a country like any other. It was November 24, 2015 and the subject was Swedish refugee reception.

But Löfven could have used exactly the same word on Monday - the fateful mood was the same - when he told about the "eight rule" which is the government's new weapon against the corona. It is a ban on crowds which, according to the Prime Minister, "are unparalleled in modern times".

Maybe someone in Löfven's vicinity should have thought of the date. The eight rule will enter into force on Tuesday, November 24, the doomsday for Swedish exceptions.

"Even Sweden is abandoning the Swedish model", the Washington Post begins on Wednesday with an article about what is happening in Sweden right now.

The press conference five years ago has been remembered not only for its content but also for the Deputy Prime Minister's crying. She never did, but Åsa Romson's voice broke when she said she had come to the conclusion that you still have to "do something".

And "something" meant - that was at least the message - that the Swedish rules for refugee reception would now be at "the EU's minimum level". From best in class to worst, from the Green Party's point of view.

Of course, the refugee crisis is very different from the corona crisis. The corona issue is not about Sweden's stated goals differing from other countries. The difference lies in the decision model, and in the decisions it has led to.

But in both cases, there is a Swedish line that clearly deviates from our immediate surroundings. A direction that the government and quite a few Swedes are proud of - but which is also sharply questioned in Sweden and in other countries.

"We will listen to the expert authorities," the ministers themselves say.

In refugee policy, it was about human values that were long considered inviolable, perhaps in line with the classic self-image of Sweden as a "humanitarian superpower". In the corona issue, supporters instead associate with other high values, especially scientific rationalism.

Already at the beginning of March, I heard a key person in the Government Offices describe how the Swedish corona strategy is based on science and competence in the authorities. And that, unlike the order in many other countries, it keeps the government - the politicians - and their sometimes populist impulses short.


"We will listen to the expert authorities," the ministers themselves say. The most important expert authority is the Public Health Agency, and the agency's recommendations have been the core of the Swedish method for responding to the corona pandemic. At least that was the case initially. "We are the ones holding the baton," FHM's CEO Johan Carlson explained to DN in mid-March.

And this is how Stefan Löfven answered on March 11 the question of whether it could be relevant to stop major events in Sweden: “We make our decisions according to what our expert authorities say. If there is such a recommendation, we are prepared to make those decisions ”.

The site Altinget has told how FHM this spring demanded - and was enrolled in the government's temporary crisis team - that expert authorities' assessment should be "of decisive importance".

The Swedish corona strategy has been a world first, ever since the outside world first noticed that Sweden chose more cautious measures than other countries. Of course, the reporting was negatively colored by the fact that the death toll in Sweden was dramatically higher than in our Nordic neighbors, who chose harsher variants. Sweden, together with Belarus, was alone in Europe on a laissez-faire line, writes the Washington Post.

But there has also been a curiosity in the country differently - was another way than closure possible? Was the Swedish model perhaps more rational, less alarmist / populist?

Some antiestéticatures in Sweden can be described as a triumph for the Swedish strategy and the Swedish Public Health Agency. This spring, it was considered controversial that Sweden did not close the schools, now during the second wave many amow that example.

But something has happened to the relationship between government and government. The eight rule - which is thus "unparalleled" - was not a proposal from the expert authority. State epidemiologist Anders Tegnell said in SR's Studio one that "there has been no major dialogue". He continued: "This is the government's decision when it comes to how many are allowed to gather, it is not we who put our foot down."

The baton was gone and Tegnell also managed to damage the eight rule by - contrary to the government's idea - claiming that it does not apply to cinemas. The master of the spring was now transformed into defiant little siblings.


The expert authority, which in the spring ruled through a request - a formal request - to the government, has been reduced to a reference body. The same was true of the proposal to ban alcohol serving after 10 pm.

Also from within the government, one can now hear a certain distancing from FHM, when it comes to how the testing - too late and too narrow and too little - was carried out this spring.

Still, it is probably above all the Public Health Agency's missed forecasts that create frustration in the government. Everything got much worse this spring than FHM thought. Everything is much worse now than FHM has thought. According to Anders Tegnell, Sweden would not even be hit by a second wave. On Wednesday, the authority reported 96 new deaths.

Incorrect predictions make the government appear ignorant and, in the worst case, careless. During the autumn, a number of restrictions have already been eased before they are now forced to tighten the throttle again.


It may seem like a mistake, but none of the ministers admitted any of these during Monday's press conference. The Löfven government did not do so after 24 November 2015 either. They had simply corrected the unsustainable refugee policy of the bourgeoisie.
 
Sin guantes dice, entra en cualquier comercio y te atenderán con guantes.... mucha gente mayor por la calle con el carro de la compra con guantes.
Sí los guantes... esos mismos guantes con los que tocas el carrito de la compra y luego te sacas una cacola de la nariz. meparto:
 
@Atanasio Lonchafinista te lo dedico. Es el fin.

Slutet på det svenska coronaexperimentet | SvD

The end of the Swedish corona experiment

The public health authority has been transformed from a commander into a troublesome little sibling. The Swedish corona exemption may thus be coming to an end, exactly five years after the government dumped another deviation - the Swedish refugee policy.

"We have seen this dramatic increase in a very short time and we must act on that reality," said Stefan Löfven.

The Swedish exception was over and the Prime Minister presented the proposals that would make Sweden a country like any other. It was November 24, 2015 and the subject was Swedish refugee reception.

But Löfven could have used exactly the same word on Monday - the fateful mood was the same - when he told about the "eight rule" which is the government's new weapon against the corona. It is a ban on crowds which, according to the Prime Minister, "are unparalleled in modern times".

Maybe someone in Löfven's vicinity should have thought of the date. The eight rule will enter into force on Tuesday, November 24, the doomsday for Swedish exceptions.

"Even Sweden is abandoning the Swedish model", the Washington Post begins on Wednesday with an article about what is happening in Sweden right now.

The press conference five years ago has been remembered not only for its content but also for the Deputy Prime Minister's crying. She never did, but Åsa Romson's voice broke when she said she had come to the conclusion that you still have to "do something".

And "something" meant - that was at least the message - that the Swedish rules for refugee reception would now be at "the EU's minimum level". From best in class to worst, from the Green Party's point of view.

Of course, the refugee crisis is very different from the corona crisis. The corona issue is not about Sweden's stated goals differing from other countries. The difference lies in the decision model, and in the decisions it has led to.

But in both cases, there is a Swedish line that clearly deviates from our immediate surroundings. A direction that the government and quite a few Swedes are proud of - but which is also sharply questioned in Sweden and in other countries.

"We will listen to the expert authorities," the ministers themselves say.

In refugee policy, it was about human values that were long considered inviolable, perhaps in line with the classic self-image of Sweden as a "humanitarian superpower". In the corona issue, supporters instead associate with other high values, especially scientific rationalism.

Already at the beginning of March, I heard a key person in the Government Offices describe how the Swedish corona strategy is based on science and competence in the authorities. And that, unlike the order in many other countries, it keeps the government - the politicians - and their sometimes populist impulses short.


"We will listen to the expert authorities," the ministers themselves say. The most important expert authority is the Public Health Agency, and the agency's recommendations have been the core of the Swedish method for responding to the corona pandemic. At least that was the case initially. "We are the ones holding the baton," FHM's CEO Johan Carlson explained to DN in mid-March.

And this is how Stefan Löfven answered on March 11 the question of whether it could be relevant to stop major events in Sweden: “We make our decisions according to what our expert authorities say. If there is such a recommendation, we are prepared to make those decisions ”.

The site Altinget has told how FHM this spring demanded - and was enrolled in the government's temporary crisis team - that expert authorities' assessment should be "of decisive importance".

The Swedish corona strategy has been a world first, ever since the outside world first noticed that Sweden chose more cautious measures than other countries. Of course, the reporting was negatively colored by the fact that the death toll in Sweden was dramatically higher than in our Nordic neighbors, who chose harsher variants. Sweden, together with Belarus, was alone in Europe on a laissez-faire line, writes the Washington Post.

But there has also been a curiosity in the country differently - was another way than closure possible? Was the Swedish model perhaps more rational, less alarmist / populist?

Some antiestéticatures in Sweden can be described as a triumph for the Swedish strategy and the Swedish Public Health Agency. This spring, it was considered controversial that Sweden did not close the schools, now during the second wave many amow that example.

But something has happened to the relationship between government and government. The eight rule - which is thus "unparalleled" - was not a proposal from the expert authority. State epidemiologist Anders Tegnell said in SR's Studio one that "there has been no major dialogue". He continued: "This is the government's decision when it comes to how many are allowed to gather, it is not we who put our foot down."

The baton was gone and Tegnell also managed to damage the eight rule by - contrary to the government's idea - claiming that it does not apply to cinemas. The master of the spring was now transformed into defiant little siblings.


The expert authority, which in the spring ruled through a request - a formal request - to the government, has been reduced to a reference body. The same was true of the proposal to ban alcohol serving after 10 pm.

Also from within the government, one can now hear a certain distancing from FHM, when it comes to how the testing - too late and too narrow and too little - was carried out this spring.

Still, it is probably above all the Public Health Agency's missed forecasts that create frustration in the government. Everything got much worse this spring than FHM thought. Everything is much worse now than FHM has thought. According to Anders Tegnell, Sweden would not even be hit by a second wave. On Wednesday, the authority reported 96 new deaths.

Incorrect predictions make the government appear ignorant and, in the worst case, careless. During the autumn, a number of restrictions have already been eased before they are now forced to tighten the throttle again.


It may seem like a mistake, but none of the ministers admitted any of these during Monday's press conference. The Löfven government did not do so after 24 November 2015 either. They had simply corrected the unsustainable refugee policy of the bourgeoisie.

Le queda Bielorrusia.
Y el comodín de Best Korea, que allí siguen haciendo vida "normal".
 
Resumiendo:

El gobierno pasa de bajar el IVA de las mascaras que utiliza la gente normal y se las baja a los cirujanos.

Ahora tienes dos opciones. ..Seguir aplaudiendo como una foca mientras te miccionan en la cara o dejar de votar a semejante banda .

Tú decides. loser:
 
Le queda Bielorrusia.
Y el comodín de Best Korea, que allí siguen haciendo vida "normal".
Los comodines

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USA ayer: 1615 muertos , como en mayo

ITALIA hoy: 753 muertos , como a principios de abril


estamos a dos semanas de que se acaben los ataudes y tenga que salir el ejercito a recoger cadaveres.
El palacio de hielo otra vez se llenara de fiambrres

Realmente estamos muchísimo peor, a principios de abril Italia tenia un cierre total y en USA en Mayo estaban también cerrados. En cambio ahora estamos todos los países intentando "Salvar la Navidad"
 
Pero estas asumiendo una realidad en la que la banderilla actúa como un todo o nada donde o te infectas sintomáticamente o no te infectas cuando con toda seguridad el número de infectados asintomáticos es considerable y el pool de donde extraer a posibles pacientes graves es muy superior a 95

Aumentar el tamaño del pool, hace más probable aún que ninguno de los banderilleados sea grave por simple casualidad.

Si hay 11 graves entre 95, la probabilidad de que un infectado sea grave es del 11.5%. Si hay 11 graves entre 200, la probabilidad se reduce a la mitad, lo que hace que el que aparezca 1 solo grave entre los 5 banderilleados sea menor.

Mi argumento es mucho más básico que todo esto.

Supongamos que nos dicen que la séptima parte de los asesinatos en España ocurren en jueves.

Como punto de partida debemos asumir la 'hipótesis cero': que no hay relación estadística entre número de asesinatos y día de la semana, o sea, las variables número de asesinatos y día de la semana son independientes.

Esta ausencia de relación entre las variables nos permite predecir que la séptima parte de los asesinatos ocurrirán los jueves (o cualquier otro día de la semana) y esta predicción coincide con los datos observados.

Naturalmente hay muchas otras hipótesis que podrían explicar los datos, por ejemplo que haya muy pocos asesinatos los lunes, muchos los domingos y que el jueves, por casualidad no haya mi muchos ni pocos, sino justo la séptima parte de todos los asesinatos.

Sin embargo, como la hipótesis más simple: la ausencia de cualquier ley o relación, explica bien los datos, esos datos no pueden soportar una hipótesis más complicada.

En el caso de la banderilla, si distribuimos de manera uniforme, esto es, sin seguir ninguna pauta concreta, los 11 casos graves, lo predecible es que no habrá ningún caso grave entre los 5 banderilleados. Y como la hipótesis basada en la ausencia de cualquier sesgo es capaz de explicar lo que se observa, los datos no pueden respaldar ningún sesgo concreto.
 
NUEVA YORK CIERRA SUS COLEGIOS

El alcalde de Nueva York, Bill de Blasio, ha informado de que las escuelas públicas se cerrarán desde mañana debido al aumento de casos de cobi19 en la ciudad, donde ya se han contagiado 273.000 personas.

De Blasio ya advirtió el viernes a los padres de la ciudad que se “prepararan” para la detención de las clases presenciales. “Los padres deberían tener un plan para el resto del mes de noviembre”, advirtió.

Hoy se ha alcanzado el 3% de positividad, que era el porcentaje estimado en el que se fijó el cese de la actividad educativa presencial. “La ciudad de Nueva York ha alcanzado la tasa de positividad de un 3% en los últimos 7 días. Esto significa que mañana cerrarán las escuelas públicas por precaución para luchar contra la segunda ola de la el bichito-19”.

El estado de Nueva York impuso el viernes nuevas restricciones, como el cierre de los locales de hostelería y los gimnasios a las 22:00 horas y la limitación de personas en reuniones a un máximo de 10. Este estado fue el epicentro de la esa época en el 2020 de la que yo le hablo en la primera ola. Allí se han notificado 568.000 infecciones y 34.000 decesos.

Estados Unidos es, además, el país del mundo con mayor número de infecciones y fallecimientos desde el inicio de la esa época en el 2020 de la que yo le hablo. Hoy se han notificado más de 161.000 contagios que se suman a un total de 11,3 millones de infecciones. Las víctimas ascienden a 248.687.
 
FRANCIA HA NOTIFICADO 28.383 NUEVOS CASOS DE cobi19

Francia ha notificado 28.383 nuevos casos de cobi19 y 425 personas han perdido la vida por la enfermedad. Desde el inicio de la esa época en el 2020 de la que yo le hablo se han producido 2,09 millones de contagios y 47.123 fallecimientos en el país galo.

La cifra de contagios de hoy es muy inferior a la obtenida en el día de ayer, cuando se registraron más de 45.000 contagios. Además, son unos 7.500 casos menos que el miércoles de la semana pasada.

Actualmente se encuentran ingresadas 32.842 personas en hospitales franceses, 4.775 de ellas en las Unidades de Cuidados Intensivos del país. La cifra de pacientes en UCI, que es el mejor indicador para saber cómo responde el sistema sanitario ante la esa época en el 2020 de la que yo le hablo, ha caído en tres de los últimos cinco días.
 
@Atanasio Lonchafinista te lo dedico. Es el fin.

Slutet på det svenska coronaexperimentet | SvD

The end of the Swedish corona experiment

The public health authority has been transformed from a commander into a troublesome little sibling. The Swedish corona exemption may thus be coming to an end, exactly five years after the government dumped another deviation - the Swedish refugee policy.

"We have seen this dramatic increase in a very short time and we must act on that reality," said Stefan Löfven.

The Swedish exception was over and the Prime Minister presented the proposals that would make Sweden a country like any other. It was November 24, 2015 and the subject was Swedish refugee reception.

But Löfven could have used exactly the same word on Monday - the fateful mood was the same - when he told about the "eight rule" which is the government's new weapon against the corona. It is a ban on crowds which, according to the Prime Minister, "are unparalleled in modern times".

Maybe someone in Löfven's vicinity should have thought of the date. The eight rule will enter into force on Tuesday, November 24, the doomsday for Swedish exceptions.

"Even Sweden is abandoning the Swedish model", the Washington Post begins on Wednesday with an article about what is happening in Sweden right now.

The press conference five years ago has been remembered not only for its content but also for the Deputy Prime Minister's crying. She never did, but Åsa Romson's voice broke when she said she had come to the conclusion that you still have to "do something".

And "something" meant - that was at least the message - that the Swedish rules for refugee reception would now be at "the EU's minimum level". From best in class to worst, from the Green Party's point of view.

Of course, the refugee crisis is very different from the corona crisis. The corona issue is not about Sweden's stated goals differing from other countries. The difference lies in the decision model, and in the decisions it has led to.

But in both cases, there is a Swedish line that clearly deviates from our immediate surroundings. A direction that the government and quite a few Swedes are proud of - but which is also sharply questioned in Sweden and in other countries.

"We will listen to the expert authorities," the ministers themselves say.

In refugee policy, it was about human values that were long considered inviolable, perhaps in line with the classic self-image of Sweden as a "humanitarian superpower". In the corona issue, supporters instead associate with other high values, especially scientific rationalism.

Already at the beginning of March, I heard a key person in the Government Offices describe how the Swedish corona strategy is based on science and competence in the authorities. And that, unlike the order in many other countries, it keeps the government - the politicians - and their sometimes populist impulses short.


"We will listen to the expert authorities," the ministers themselves say. The most important expert authority is the Public Health Agency, and the agency's recommendations have been the core of the Swedish method for responding to the corona pandemic. At least that was the case initially. "We are the ones holding the baton," FHM's CEO Johan Carlson explained to DN in mid-March.

And this is how answered on March 11 the question of whether it could be relevant to stop major events in Sweden: “We make our decisions according to what our expert authorities say. If there is such a recommendation, we are prepared to make those decisions ”.

The site Altinget has told how FHM this spring demanded - and was enrolled in the government's temporary crisis team - that expert authorities' assessment should be "of decisive importance".

The Swedish corona strategy has been a world first, ever since the outside world first noticed that Sweden chose more cautious measures than other countries. Of course, the reporting was negatively colored by the fact that the death toll in Sweden was dramatically higher than in our Nordic neighbors, who chose harsher variants. Sweden, together with Belarus, was alone in Europe on a laissez-faire line, writes the Washington Post.

But there has also been a curiosity in the country differently - was another way than closure possible? Was the Swedish model perhaps more rational, less alarmist / populist?

Some antiestéticatures in Sweden can be described as a triumph for the Swedish strategy and the Swedish Public Health Agency. This spring, it was considered controversial that Sweden did not close the schools, now during the second wave many amow that example.

But something has happened to the relationship between government and government. The eight rule - which is thus "unparalleled" - was not a proposal from the expert authority. State epidemiologist Anders Tegnell said in SR's Studio one that "there has been no major dialogue". He continued: "This is the government's decision when it comes to how many are allowed to gather, it is not we who put our foot down."

The baton was gone and Tegnell also managed to damage the eight rule by - contrary to the government's idea - claiming that it does not apply to cinemas. The master of the spring was now transformed into defiant little siblings.


The expert authority, which in the spring ruled through a request - a formal request - to the government, has been reduced to a reference body. The same was true of the proposal to ban alcohol serving after 10 pm.

Also from within the government, one can now hear a certain distancing from FHM, when it comes to how the testing - too late and too narrow and too little - was carried out this spring.

Still, it is probably above all the Public Health Agency's missed forecasts that create frustration in the government. Everything got much worse this spring than FHM thought. Everything is much worse now than FHM has thought. According to Anders Tegnell, Sweden would not even be hit by a second wave. On Wednesday, the authority reported 96 new deaths.

Incorrect predictions make the government appear ignorant and, in the worst case, careless. During the autumn, a number of restrictions have already been eased before they are now forced to tighten the throttle again.


It may seem like a mistake, but none of the ministers admitted any of these during Monday's press conference. The Löfven government did not do so after 24 November 2015 either. They had simply corrected the unsustainable refugee policy of the bourgeoisie.
Todas las medidas de Stefan Löfven van en la mala dirección, cuando se mete el clero político por medio, con las medidas que predicas, la cosa no va bien.

Mientras tanto, sin cubrebocas ni cuarentenas, Suecia ha bajado 5 puestos en el ranking de ratio de muertos está semana, ya me has demostrado que no sabes el por qué.

Los que hacen lo que tú crees que hay que hacer, tipo Hezpanha, Francia o Italia, están disparados.

El ambiente en la Suecia que para ti no existe, "estamos en casa con mucho miedo" es el siguiente a día de hoy:



Dejar las decisiones en manos de la propia gente siempre es lo correcto. ¿Tienes miedo? Pues no salgas. Los demás son mayorcitos, y debieran serlo pese a tu desprecio por las libertades del ser humano.
Algo que te debe haber pegado el cura @Guanotopia y ver la tele.

Boa noite.
 
Podria ser que al empezar esta segunda ola unos 2 meses antes, haya un desfase entre ellos y nosotros. (Algo parecido a lo que pasa entre Madrid y otras muchas CCAA)
En Madrid incluso es posible que haya cierta inmunidad grupal. Hay ya la burrada de 18.000 muertes en exceso y eso apunta a unos 2M de contagiados. Si las poblaciones más susceptibles están con miedo, que deberían porque quien más , quien menos, lo ha visto de cerca, y además todo el mundo usa mascaras, pues es probable que el bichito se encuentre muchas veces con inmunizados o que incluso sea cierto eso que dicen de que un porcentaje de la población es naturalmente inmune y ni se entera (de esto han salido artículos y hay un señor de León que sale en los informativos que va donando plasma) , y por eso la propagación es larga en el tiempo pero sin un despegue acusado. En Francia hay que recordar que estaban masajeando esputo en sus restaurantes (que son enanos y con mesas muy juntas), hasta el otro día.
 
Realmente estamos muchísimo peor, a principios de abril Italia tenia un cierre total y en USA en Mayo estaban también cerrados. En cambio ahora estamos todos los países intentando "Salvar la Navidad"

en Navidad van a estar enterrando cadaveres con cal viva en fosas comunes
 
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