Hilo Oficial F.C. Barcelona - Temporada 2021/2022

Hagámonos fans de Gattuso

Gattuso prioriza la llegada de Riqui Puig si firma por el Valencia

Revolución total en el Valencia. El propietario del club che, Peter Lim, tras echar al presidente Anil Murthy por los polémicos audios desvelados por 'Superdeporte', se ha puesto manos a la obra para reconstruir su proyecto deportivo. Asesorado por el agente Jorge Mendes, el Valencia está muy cerca de fichar a Gennaro Gattuso como nuevo técnico para las dos próximas temporadas. Lim desea dar un empujón al equipo y considera al italiano clave para revitalizar la entidad. Gattuso está discutiendo también la remodelación de plantilla necesaria y una de sus prioridades sería contar con el blaugrana Riqui Puig para la próxima temporada.

El Valencia y Peter Lim mantiene unas excelentes relaciones con el Barça a través de la mediación de Mendes. De hecho, hace unas semanas el que era presidente, Anil Murthy, se reunió en Barcelona con Joan Laporta para explorar opciones de mercado. Salieron muchos nombres y el Valencia ofreció a Gayà y Carlos Soler, pero una de las peticiones del club che fue Riqui Puig a parte de Braithwaite. Con la llegada de Gattuso, el interés se va a incrementar ya que el exjugador italiano le considera pieza clave para el centro del campo.
 
Laporta y su junta visitan un supermercado

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Pero esta gente a donde iban!!!!!!!!! meparto: meparto: meparto: meparto:


Cosmopolita deja el hilo abierto mas dias!!!
 
Pues hasta el perro inglés se rinde ante tanta grandeza:

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Real Madrid’s golden era sustained by myth, epic and cold intelligence
Where other teams are built on systems and philosophies, Madrid mix regal self-assuredness with calculating genius

Barney Ronay

Barney Ronay in Paris
@barneyronay
Mon 30 May 2022 08.00 BST

Karim Benzema punches the air in celebration as Real Madrid’s Champions League triumph is confirmed

Karim Benzema punches the air in celebration as Real Madrid’s Champions League triumph is confirmed. Photograph: Kai Pfaffenbach/Reuters

As the world turned a shade of white close to midnight in Paris, dissolving into a familiar frieze – the same shapes and songs, the Champions League trophy waved about with the same sense of dieu et mon droit – there was also a feeling of something revealing itself, of a question being answered.

In the build-up to Real Madrid’s narrow but decisive victory at Stade de France on Saturday night there had been a lot of talk in England about claims on greatness and ultimacy, born out of Liverpool’s own thrillingly sustained attempt to chase the sun right to the seasons’s end.

For Jürgen Klopp’s team there is only glory in falling just short of the peak, a point, a goal, a game from the perfect season. But one mystery was at least solved in Paris. Greatness you say? A team for the ages? I can tell you, messieurs et mesdames, the killers are in this room right now.

This is the big thing about ultimacy. It doesn’t happen very often. Or rather, it keeps on happening the same way. Other empires will rise, other seats of power, tactics, systems and economic might. But this is still by any reasonable measure the age of the Meringues. Albeit an age that is still hard to explain or define without falling back on things like magic and bloodline, leftover brilliance.

What is the model here? What does the age of Madrid miccionan? How do we replicate it? The obvious response is that you can’t, not without actually being Real Madrid, and there is space for only one of those. This is the great thing about believing your own divine right of kings myth. Just telling that story, repeating over and over that Madrid know how to win, is a source of power in itself.

There is an epic, almost bardic quality to these five Champions League triumphs in eight years. Epics repeat: the same scenes, the same story details, the same outcome, embedding itself as part of football’s daily script, its dream life. The more we tell this story of victory the more it becomes true, to the extent even writing the words “an almost bardic quality” or “the more we tell this story” becomes another small note in this self-fuelling epic, with its bardic qualities, with its repetitions, with its epic heroes, its bardic qualities, its white light, the same shapes and songs.

Real Madrid supporters greet their returning heroes

Real Madrid supporters greet their returning heroes. Photograph: Andrea Comas/AP

This process was there in the final itself, where we were told so many times that Vinícius Júnior would find space behind Trent Alexander-Arnold that it became fact ahead of time. Even as Vinícius set off on a skittering run with 30 minutes gone, a full second before the pass was launched in his direction (and intercepted), the entire Madrid end could be heard roaring and pointing at an event that had yet to happen, gripped with premonitions. Bardic repetitions? It’s like having a 12th man on the pitch.

But then, of course, at some point sense must also intrude. In reality, it’s not actually magic. Strip back the myth-making and the Real Supremacy is a more prosaic kind of brilliance. There is no tactical blueprint, no “system”, no Madrid Way. Madrid win because this is just such a high‑grade, hyper‑intelligent group of footballers.

In this sense the comeback stuff has been misleading. What Madrid really want is control. That was what they found in Paris. By the end Liverpool had taken 24 shots at goal, only four of them on target; Madrid had four shots in total. Liverpool had more possession and three times as many corners.

But Madrid were always more precise. The front three lost the ball eight times between them all game. Mo Salah lost the ball eight times all on his own. In midfield, Madrid seemed to be playing in more vivid colours. Toni Kroos didn’t run or hustle or press much, but completed 93% of his 83 passes. Kroos and Luka Modric lost control of the ball in possession once all game between them. This is simply a supreme group of players, governed by the ice-cold intelligence of that all‑time midfield, plus of course the deceptively precise light touch style of Carlo Ancelotti.

Carlo Ancelotti salutes the Real Madrid fans at the Stade de France

Carlo Ancelotti is now the only manager to have won the Champions League four times. Photograph: Adam Davy/PA

Modric, incidentally, must light up with fond fuzzy memories each time he sees Jordan Henderson’s name on the team sheet. Henderson’s record against Modric reads played five, drawn one, lost four, including two Champions League finals and a World Cup semi. We really must do this more often old boy. It isn’t magic or inner belief that makes Kroos, Modric and Casemiro – the perfect blend of craft, hustle, and vision – better than Henderson, Fabinho and an unfit Thiago. But eight years down the line, it is still epic.

Plus, of course, there is something else, perhaps the real key through the last eight years of glory. Real Madrid’s ownership model has turned out to be a genuine gold-plated ace. For Madrid part of the beauty of this Champions League win is the fact the teams they have beaten have been project clubs, new money, upstart powers: two nation-state vehicles and another club whose owner was being sanctioned for his connection to a European land war.

Madrid have a very clear sense of themselves in this new world order and have been openly hostile, and to some extent inspired too, by the threat of losing their muscle. Squint a little and that run of victories – PSG, Chelsea and Manchester City – brings to mind the sequence at the end of the Godfather where Michael Corleone takes down the new faces in town, the incomers on the family turf, with a series of dramatic public hit jobs. Kiss the ring. The cartel is on top once again.

The real advantage here is that in a time of flux and interference the socio ownership model is a kind of insulation. It may be a madhouse of egos and politics, of dubious dealings, and bottomless loan facilities. Madrid may be a basket case of economic entitlement, menaced only by the prospect of running out of other people’s money. But there is also a degree of focus, of diffuse interests. This will always be, at bottom and in whatever form, a footballing obsession.

Good choices have been made over those years. Even failing to buy Kylian Mbappé might turn out to be a positive. He is at least parked somewhere safe. And Madrid’s recent success has been based on buying smart, on going pre-Galáctico, buying the next Neymar before he becomes Neymar; buying Vinícius who, as luck would have it, is a clean-living winning machine.

On one level this great team is now ageing, that great midfield, the real source of power, about to dissolve. And yet while players keep on leaving, the regiment never dies. That regal white thread is still intact. And this, it turns out, is what ultimacy looks like.
 
A mí personalmente no me digustaba Van Gaal en su época. Eran otros tiempos.

En su primera etapa ganó 2 ligas, una copa del rey y una súper copa de Europa.

Es verdad que con la prensa no se llevaba muy bien, y eso también influyó a que mucha gente le cogiese manía, pero no me pareció mal entrenador ni mucho menos.

En su segunda etapa, un desastre, como toda la etapa de Gaspar....

Puntos a favor, que con él debutaron varios canteranos.

Claro, si lo comparamos con Guardiola, pues no tiene nada que hacer.

De cualquier modo el próximo año será la auténtica prueba de fuego de Xavi como entrenador, ya que este año el entorno del Barça ha sido relativamente permisivo con él debido a las circunstancias.

No me jorobes ... a mí me invitaban al campo bastante en esa época y a veces tenía que ir por compromiso (y portarme bien, claro), y tengo un malísimo recuerdo de la época del caratocho. Yo estuve en el campo el día que debutó Bogarde ... creo que fue contra el Numancia si no me equivoco, en la copa del Rey, y fue un espectáculo dantesco.

Parecía MA Barracus más fibrado, pero con cara de simple y más caenas todavía.

Menuda época, la prensa le cogió manía a Van Gaal porque era un pelota de cosa con el "Pesident" y un estulto profundo, aparte de un maleducado.

Mis datos son antiguos, pero recuerdo que el FCB tenía más de 100.000 socios, y una lista de espera de décadas para nuevas incorporaciones. Una derrama de 1.000 euros por socio, y el que no pueda que ceda su carnet a uno de la lista de espera sería una medida razonable. 100.000.000. No tendrían que pagar esos 1.000 de golpe. Cualquier entidad financiera le adelantaría ese dinero al FCB si hubiera esa garantía.

O sea, un Lola Flores versión culerda. Recordemos cuando a la Gran Lola, hacienda le pedía 40 milllones y le mendigó una pesetilla a cada español ...
 
Hagámonos fans de Gattuso

Gattuso prioriza la llegada de Riqui Puig si firma por el Valencia

Revolución total en el Valencia. El propietario del club che, Peter Lim, tras echar al presidente Anil Murthy por los polémicos audios desvelados por 'Superdeporte', se ha puesto manos a la obra para reconstruir su proyecto deportivo. Asesorado por el agente Jorge Mendes, el Valencia está muy cerca de fichar a Gennaro Gattuso como nuevo técnico para las dos próximas temporadas. Lim desea dar un empujón al equipo y considera al italiano clave para revitalizar la entidad. Gattuso está discutiendo también la remodelación de plantilla necesaria y una de sus prioridades sería contar con el blaugrana Riqui Puig para la próxima temporada.

El Valencia y Peter Lim mantiene unas excelentes relaciones con el Barça a través de la mediación de Mendes. De hecho, hace unas semanas el que era presidente, Anil Murthy, se reunió en Barcelona con Joan Laporta para explorar opciones de mercado. Salieron muchos nombres y el Valencia ofreció a Gayà y Carlos Soler, pero una de las peticiones del club che fue Riqui Puig a parte de Braithwaite. Con la llegada de Gattuso, el interés se va a incrementar ya que el exjugador italiano le considera pieza clave para el centro del campo.
Dios santo. Un chaval que no ha demostrado nada. Ya me dirán qué padrinos tiene porque es alucinante.
 
La Masía es una fábrica de timos fabulosa. Al Gattusso le veo un futuro demoledor en el Valencia..jajaja
Me recuerda al inglés aquel que trajo y que duró una cosa. Un tío que no conoce la liga española y que lo mandará a tomar por ojo ciego en dos segundos.
 
O sea, un Lola Flores versión culerda. Recordemos cuando a la Gran Lola, hacienda le pedía 40 milllones y le mendigó una pesetilla a cada español ...

Hombre, no es lo mismo. Lo malo sería que la derrama del FCB la acabáramos pagando todos los españoles.
 
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