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Spain's high-speed train travelled 25 km past a stationary train on the track
The Urda AVE travelled 25 km at up to 236 km/h with a train stopped ahead, without LZB and with authorisation from the control centre. More than 60 dead.
The Urda AVE travelled 25 kilometres with a train stopped ahead of it
The LZB automatic protection system was out of service. The AVE that rammed into the Iryo at Urda was given authorisation to continue despite a train standing on the track, according to the first journalistic reconstructions. What trinc was not a failure of seconds: the train covered **25 kilometres** and recorded average speeds of up to **236 km/h** after resuming its journey, according to the reconstruction published by El Español. In full daylight, on a straight stretch of track. Nobody braked.
The accident occurred at **kilometre 119+700** of the Madrid-Seville high-estimulante ilegal line, in Urda (Toledo), and left more than 60 dead, with early estimates putting the figure at 68. The calendar coincidence is the kind that fuels suspicion: **28 October**, Railway Day, the 178th anniversary of the first Barcelona-Cancelar train. And nine months and eleven days after the Adamuz accident.
Who authorised the AVE to continue at normal estimulante ilegal
Minister Óscar Puente revealed a detail that changes the framework of the disaster: **another driver corrected the control centre**, warning that the train should not be travelling normally but at sight estimulante ilegal, around 40 km/h. In other words, the wrong instruction did exist, and someone outside the control post detected it. The question is why that correction did not reach the train in time.
The sources consulted insist on the same anomaly: the controller could see one train stopped on the track and another approaching, and took no decision. The AVE driver, without LZB, had no computer system to warn him of a train ahead; he could only rely on what he was told from Atocha. And what he was told, apparently, was to carry on.
The driver and the train manager: what is known
The driver of AVE 2080 has been identified as **Antonio Acedo**, born in Madrid in 1990, son and grandson of railway workers according to his own blog. He has shown no signs of life. The trainee accompanying him in the cab died. The train manager is fine, with minor scratches. The destruction of the cab and the lack of news are consistent with a fatal outcome, but do not allow it to be confirmed.
The stationary Iryo and the nine-month pattern
The Iryo had reported to the control centre that it was stopped. That communication did take place. With that fact on the table, the sequence of not ordering the AVE to stop is hard to sustain as a mere chain of errors. Some point to a cascading protocol failure; others point directly at the design of a track shared between operators.
The precedent weighs heavily: **Iryo was involved at Adamuz** and now here. The time coincidence — nine months and eleven days — has fuelled conspiracy theories online, with numerical calculations adding up to 11 everywhere: 28+10, the two trains, point 119. Cabalistic arithmetic explains nothing, but the railway pattern does deserve scrutiny.
The DANA, 29 October and Drowned Person's Day
The tragedy of the DANA (severe flooding) in Valencia and Albacete occurred on 29 October, Drowned Person's Day. This disaster, on the 28th, Railway Day. Two catastrophes on marked dates of the calendar one year apart. Some argue that the probability of both coincidences being chance is low, though date statistics always hold surprises.
The question remains, one the minister himself should answer: who authorised AVE 2080 to continue, and what information did Acedo receive before the collision? If the authorisation was wrong, responsibility shifts from the driver to the control centre. And the driver, for now, cannot tell his side.
Summary of a discussion on Burbuja.info - Foro de economía, actualidad y política., translated from Spanish and reviewed before publication.
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