Spain's Aznar Criticizes Trump Amidst PP Establishment Backlash
Former Spanish PM Aznar condemns Trump over Capitol riot, while right-wing media brands him a servant of the globalist establishment.
English · Original discussion in Spanish · Published
Aznar vs. Trump: The Fading Power of the Old Establishment
There is a paradox defining Spanish politics for decades: the former president who sold Spain as Washington’s unconditional ally now distributes democratic credentials. José María Aznar, at 71, has publicly condemned Donald Trump for his role in the Capitol assault and attempted coup, using the same doctrinal tone typical of the FAES foundation. The issue isn't what he says, but who says it and whom it benefits.
FAES Statement and Right-Wing Media Reaction
The foundation presided by Aznar issued a statement describing the US President-elect in terms that, according to part of the right, seem lifted from pogre outlets. The response was immediate. Sectors identifying with the new right accuse Aznar of being a lackey of the US establishment, of selling his soul to the Skull & Bones sect, and of continuing to defend the interests of globalist elites that Trump claims to fight.
The central argument of this current is that Aznar does not represent the right, but a conglomerate of economic interests transcending ideological labels. "It's just business, nothing personal," summarizes one intervention. The criticism extends to the entire People's Party (PP), accused of abandoning any real opposition to dominant thinking. "If you don't realize it's all a damn farce, you're an idiot," concludes another message reflecting part of the debate.
Skull & Bones, George Bush, and Military Business
The connection with the Bush family is a key thread in the discussion. It is recalled that George Bush Sr. introduced Aznar to the secret society Skull & Bones, a brotherhood counting democrats and republicans alike among its members. From this, the conclusion is drawn that the former Spanish president has always served the interests of an establishment beyond party lines.
The historical trigger is the Iraq War. "A serious president who wasted all the advantage USA had over the rest of the world at the start of the century by fighting the wars Israel wanted," notes a participant. The criticism isn't limited to Aznar; it extends to a whole generation of leaders who, according to this reading, prioritized their US masters' interests over Spanish well-being. "Aznar is an intellectual pauper devoted to his masters' agenda," summarizes another.
The PP as a Branch of the Democratic Party
One of the most repeated theses is that the People's Party is the Spanish version of the US Democratic Party. Both would be "a disaster when in charge," and both would represent the globalist elites Trump promised to dismantle. Cuca Gamarra's explicit support for Kamala Harris is cited as proof that the PP has ceased to be a right-wing party, becoming a branch of international pogre.
Some conclude that the left-right axis is a useful fiction to keep the population entertained while the families and clans truly governing the world continue pulling strings. "They couldn't care less about ideologies; they are just fodder to polarize the sheep," states a message condensing this vision.
Trade War and the End of Globalization
Beyond ideological labels, there is an analysis transcending the noise: Trump's return to the White House signals the end of globalization as we know it. Tariffs on European products and US disengagement from imperial wars would leave European oligarchies alone facing the consequences. "The euro will be worth toilet paper," predicts a participant.
This reading connects with criticism of the 2030 Agenda, presented as an instrument of control and impoverishment disguised as good intentions. "When the system lies and manipulates with its official nonsense, it gives rise to contrary thinking," notes another message warning of the risk that dissent may also become controlled.
Economic Legacy: From Felipe González to Aznar
The discussion shifts to the economic legacy of Spanish governments. It is recalled that the housing bubble did not begin with Aznar but was gestated during Felipe González's final years, with cases like PSV and the misappropriation of 18,588 million pesetas. "Anyone who lived through 90s Spain knows apartments were already a business," points out a participant.
The conclusion drawn is that corruption and the predatory economic model are not the property of one party, but of a self-perpetuating system. The Aznar family is flagged as "the main ally of vulture funds in our country," with more than 40,000 million euros in real estate assets managed by the former president's son.
Does it serve any purpose to keep discussing ideological labels when those truly in power seem to operate on a higher plane?
There is a paradox defining Spanish politics for decades: the former president who sold Spain as Washington’s unconditional ally now distributes democratic credentials. José María Aznar, at 71, has publicly condemned Donald Trump for his role in the Capitol assault and attempted coup, using the same doctrinal tone typical of the FAES foundation. The issue isn't what he says, but who says it and whom it benefits.
FAES Statement and Right-Wing Media Reaction
The foundation presided by Aznar issued a statement describing the US President-elect in terms that, according to part of the right, seem lifted from pogre outlets. The response was immediate. Sectors identifying with the new right accuse Aznar of being a lackey of the US establishment, of selling his soul to the Skull & Bones sect, and of continuing to defend the interests of globalist elites that Trump claims to fight.
The central argument of this current is that Aznar does not represent the right, but a conglomerate of economic interests transcending ideological labels. "It's just business, nothing personal," summarizes one intervention. The criticism extends to the entire People's Party (PP), accused of abandoning any real opposition to dominant thinking. "If you don't realize it's all a damn farce, you're an idiot," concludes another message reflecting part of the debate.
Skull & Bones, George Bush, and Military Business
The connection with the Bush family is a key thread in the discussion. It is recalled that George Bush Sr. introduced Aznar to the secret society Skull & Bones, a brotherhood counting democrats and republicans alike among its members. From this, the conclusion is drawn that the former Spanish president has always served the interests of an establishment beyond party lines.
The historical trigger is the Iraq War. "A serious president who wasted all the advantage USA had over the rest of the world at the start of the century by fighting the wars Israel wanted," notes a participant. The criticism isn't limited to Aznar; it extends to a whole generation of leaders who, according to this reading, prioritized their US masters' interests over Spanish well-being. "Aznar is an intellectual pauper devoted to his masters' agenda," summarizes another.
The PP as a Branch of the Democratic Party
One of the most repeated theses is that the People's Party is the Spanish version of the US Democratic Party. Both would be "a disaster when in charge," and both would represent the globalist elites Trump promised to dismantle. Cuca Gamarra's explicit support for Kamala Harris is cited as proof that the PP has ceased to be a right-wing party, becoming a branch of international pogre.
Some conclude that the left-right axis is a useful fiction to keep the population entertained while the families and clans truly governing the world continue pulling strings. "They couldn't care less about ideologies; they are just fodder to polarize the sheep," states a message condensing this vision.
Trade War and the End of Globalization
Beyond ideological labels, there is an analysis transcending the noise: Trump's return to the White House signals the end of globalization as we know it. Tariffs on European products and US disengagement from imperial wars would leave European oligarchies alone facing the consequences. "The euro will be worth toilet paper," predicts a participant.
This reading connects with criticism of the 2030 Agenda, presented as an instrument of control and impoverishment disguised as good intentions. "When the system lies and manipulates with its official nonsense, it gives rise to contrary thinking," notes another message warning of the risk that dissent may also become controlled.
Economic Legacy: From Felipe González to Aznar
The discussion shifts to the economic legacy of Spanish governments. It is recalled that the housing bubble did not begin with Aznar but was gestated during Felipe González's final years, with cases like PSV and the misappropriation of 18,588 million pesetas. "Anyone who lived through 90s Spain knows apartments were already a business," points out a participant.
The conclusion drawn is that corruption and the predatory economic model are not the property of one party, but of a self-perpetuating system. The Aznar family is flagged as "the main ally of vulture funds in our country," with more than 40,000 million euros in real estate assets managed by the former president's son.
Does it serve any purpose to keep discussing ideological labels when those truly in power seem to operate on a higher plane?
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