Spain Talmudic Hate Debate

Debate on Alleged «Talmudic Hatred» of Spain

An initial post introduces a controversial thesis: a hostile narrative against Spain, attributed to supposed «Talmudic hatred», appears in foreign journalists' statements, Israeli officials' relatives' tweets about Ceuta and Melilla, or interpretations of the American empire's loss. The ensuing discussion, with 199 replies, moves beyond anecdote. It shifts toward the Jewish question, Freemasonry, the Inquisition, the conquest of America, and the role of Anglo-Saxon powers in constructing the anti-Spain narrative.

The thread starts with a strong claim: Spain is subject to specific hatred. The initial message cites an English journalist who allegedly wrote that Spain is «the worst country, not in the world, but in Europe», and mentions a tweet by Netanyahu's son pointing out Sarracinists in Ceuta and Melilla. From there, the conversation branches out. Some argue this hatred is real and organized; others consider it an exaggeration hiding internal problems.

The Jewish Question as the Debate's Axis

One of the most active participants argues the topic is «much more complex than it seems» and that studying World War II reveals analysis levels few imagine. He calls it «terrifying». Another adds everything began with the French Revolution, when, while beheading the monarchy, the Rothschild family was enthroned as the Republic's financial power. The repeated thesis: democracies have bowed to this power, politicians are its servants, and media its loudspeakers.

Some go further, claiming Hitler was part of the plan, though «surely he didn't know». The conversation relies on period citations: speeches, articles, pre-1945 cinema. Reading Goebbels, Streicher, or Codreanu is recommended to understand the issue, warning that reading Jewish authors «confuses» the naive reader. Conspiracy accusations mix with references to Ephesians 6:12 and the idea that earthly power «strangles».

The Inquisition: Spanish Invention or Central European Import?

One of the thread's most documented messages dismantles the idea that the Inquisition is a Spanish invention. It originated in the 12th century in what is now Germany, Austria, Poland, Czechia, northern France, and Italy. The Kingdom of Aragon copied it from France in 1200. In Nordic countries, massacres against heretics were the norm before the tribunal existed. «The Inquisition tribunal was pogre», it states.

The Spanish Inquisition, it adds, only had jurisdiction over Catholics, and laws prohibited acting against Indians in America. It mainly judged false converts, originally Jews, and old Christians for practices considered crimes under Catholic faith. In Spain, witchcraft cases are almost nonexistent compared to other countries. The conclusion drawn: the narrative presenting Spain as the bloodiest manifestation of Catholic dogma does not withstand comparison with data.

Mexico's Role and the Empire's Loss

The conversation turns to Mexico. A participant recalls the University of Mexico was founded in 1537, some 150 years before Puritans arrived on the Mayflower, and the first Nahuatl grammar predates the German one. Mexico was for centuries one of the world's richest cities. The Inquisition in viceroyalties killed two or three people for things justified at the time, it argues.

Another points out that Mexico, without its security issues, would be a country where a wall should be built to prevent invasion, because everyone would want to live there. Anti-Mexican bias and inferiority complex are attributed to poorly digested Spanish origins. The loss of half the territory to the United States is mentioned as an explanatory factor.

The Anglo-Saxon Narrative and Double Standards

One highly valued intervention highlights asymmetry: no one publicly reproaches pirates for their history, while a demonizing narrative about Spaniards is commonly shared. Anglo-Saxons are discriminated against for being white or European, but not for their historical legacy. Spaniards are. This double standard is considered the core problem.

Cicero is cited defending the proconsul of Asia Minor from a false accusation by Jews in Rome, reproducing a passage describing Jews as «a nation of scammers and deceivers». The quote argues the conflict isn't new. Also mentioned is a letter attributed to Baruch Levy to Karl Marx, stating the Jewish people will be their own Messiah and rule the universe through human race unification.

State of Israel and Zionism

The thread's final part focuses on Israel. It claims it's an anti-historical entity imposed by force, which will eventually cease to exist. Zionism is described as a nationalist sect similar to Nancy, backed by the international Jewish community. Discussion on whether Jesus was Jewish occupies several posts, with opposing views on his birth in Aaaa or Palestine, his rabbi status, and Christianity's origin.

A participant argues Christianity is a Greco-Roman religion syncretized with Greek metaphysics, and removing it from that context, as Protestants do, is nonsense. Another responds Palestine was a Roman province and Christ a Roman citizen. The discussion gets tangled in historical details and ends without agreement.

Closing: Where Analysis Stalls

The thread reaches no conclusion. Some see an organized conspiracy; others, a patchwork of grievances. What remains clear is the narrative about Spain doesn't stand on data alone: the Inquisition was imported, the University of Mexico predates English colonization, and the American empire's loss had more to do with rival powers than supposed «Talmudic hatred». The debate remains open, and participants know it.