Rome took 200 years to subdue Hispania; Gaul fell in ten
To conquer Hispania, Rome needed nearly two centuries, losing several armies along the way and facing fierce resistance like that of Numancia. For Gaul, Julius Caesar needed only a decade. This comparison fuels a debate on whether the Spanish people have always been conquered when attempted. The timeline presented does not support the simplistic thesis: the conquest was no walk in the park, nor did occupation last as long as it seems.
The starting premise was stark: the weakest known country, unable to defend its borders, subjected by Romans, Visigoths, Arabs, and French. The response came in the form of chronology.
How long Rome took to conquer Hispania
The Roman conquest of the peninsula lasted intermittently for about 200 years, accumulating notable defeats for the legions, which forced repeated reinforcements. The contrast with other territories is central: Caesar closed Gaul in ten years, and Britain was resolved in a similar timeframe. In the peninsula, resistance left episodes like Numancia and the figure of Viriato, essential references when discussing Rome in Hispania. The legions did not find soft ground here, but a long and costly war.
What is debated is not whether Rome eventually won —it did—, but at what price and over how much time. The difference of decades does not fit with the narrative of instant surrender. And the same standard applies to others: Romans also dominated Britain, yet no one uses this to define Britons as a submissive people.
Visigoths and Arabs: 711 to 1492 and their nuances
Another point refuted is the status of the Visigoths. They would not have entered as foreign invaders, but as part of the decomposing late-Roman army, which completely changes the framework. With the Arabs, the chronology is clear: they entered in 711 and their presence ended in 1492. The nuance added is that after the initial occupation, they lost territory continuously and failed to subdue the Christian nuclei in the north.
Versions clash on the role of each actor. Some argue that the initial advance was halted in the north and the Pyrenees, and from there the south organized itself as a split territory. The arithmetic gets tangled —from 711 to 1492, there is room to count it in various ways— and that is where each side chooses which centuries to include.
Why Bailén was a turning point
With Napoleon, the narrative becomes more concrete. The emperor's first major defeat in Spain was at Bailén, emphasizing that there were no British troops involved: it was exclusively a Spanish affair. The French occupation lasted eight years, a period during which, according to cross-referenced figures, massive destruction occurred and death tolls reached up to one million people.
There is no agreement on the role of allies. One side recalls that without British pressure and, above all, the Russian campaign, the French would not have left; the other responds that the Spanish guerrilla was the decisive factor and that the emperor himself acknowledged his mistake in entering the peninsula. Some even point out that Napoleon barely set foot in Spain for a few weeks, defeating everything in his path until the only escape was by sea. The war ceased to be a military stroll and became a permanent hemorrhage, requiring constant troop movements to this front.
Lepanto, Vienna, and halting Ottoman advance
The list is not limited to the peninsula. Episodes are cited where Spanish infantry had decisive weight: Lepanto, the defense of Malta, the relief of Vienna against the Ottoman siege, plus actions like Castelnuovo or the so-called Miracle of Empel. The underlying thesis is that the Ottoman advance into central Europe met these contingents, and without them, the map would look very different.
And there is a recurring counterpoint: Great Britain was conquered by Romans, Angles, Saxons, Danes, and Normans, without this being used to define it as weak. The same measuring stick applied to both sides is precisely what is demanded.
What remains of that Spain
The final twist is identity-based. It is argued that Spain maintains state continuity since the Roman era and that Castilian is the second native language in the world by number of speakers, behind only Mandarin Chinese. Opposing views remain unchanged: a country that recovered late and poorly, depended on its allies, and today delegates its defense to supranational structures.
Each side re-elects its favorite dates. Some count centuries; others, defeats. The only thing chronology reveals is that neither list is complete.
Summary of a discussion on Burbuja.info - Foro de economía, actualidad y política., translated from Spanish and reviewed before publication.
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