Hiding Food During Collapse: The Pit Digging Mistake
Where would you hide food if supply chains broke tomorrow? The instinctive answer—digging a hole in the woods, burying barrels, covering them with firewood—is also the most debated. In a village with a yard, the temptation is to break concrete, bury supplies, and camouflage them. The problem isn't digging. The problem is that after three months, if you aren't as famished as everyone else, you've already given yourself away.
The discussion starts with a purchased crossbow, the idea of a shotgun, and antiestéticar that dogs will detect the food's scent. It ends, dozens of messages later, with an uncomfortable consensus: the only thing they can't steal from you is what you know how to do.
The Calculation That Dismantles the Perfect Hideout
The most repeated argument is devastating: you can hide it wherever you want, but if after three months you aren't desperate like the others, it means you're storing something. And whoever is in charge at that moment—because there will always be someone in charge—will send three guys to beat you until you confess. And you will confess.
The parallel used is Rwanda during the genocide: there is nowhere to hide it. The conclusion drawn is that physical hiding fails due to a problem of theater: you must dispose of waste without being seen, you must defecate where no one can inspect the result, and you must maintain a hungry face. It is enough for someone to see you slip behind bushes and approach afterwards to know you are secretly eating well.
Digging a Two-Meter Hole: The Fine Print
The physical part of the plan takes the worst hit. Vacant land is not soft: at 30 centimeters, rock appears or everything is full of roots. Those who have dug a two-meter deep hole to bury a barrel describe it as hellish, warning that unless you are trained, you might suffer a heart attack before finishing the first hole.
The proposed alternative is more modest: 30-liter barrels with airtight seals, buried in the woods on vacant land, with a treasure map so you don't lose them. Some have one buried with enough for two months for their family and dig it up every five years to renew perishables. The catch is that the barrel must be filled, transported, and the hole dug without anyone seeing you do it.
What Foods Last Buried and Are Ignored by Insects?
The list used is short: dried legumes, shredded coconut, dried bananas. Things even ants ignore. Cans preserve well but provide little food and calories and lots of salt, so you would need to bury a huge quantity. The real problem isn't preservation; it's water.
Urine is mentioned as a repellent so animals don't dig in the disturbed area. Some point to tubers: tiger nuts, planted in the ground, are practically indestructible and naturalize, although the invader won't know they are edible. Of course, this only works if the invader doesn't see that you aren't skin and bones.
The Thesis Gaining Ground: Knowledge Cannot Be Requisitioned
Against barrels, the current that ultimately dominates is different. The only thing worth having is what cannot be stolen: knowing how to administer antibiotics, repair a motorcycle, make a solar panel generate electricity, or set up a proper fence. To this are added two assets that cannot be bought: charm to win people over and discretion so the less they know about you, the better.
The nuance is that you can't prevent them from knowing you are a doctor, but no one needs to know how good you are at electricity or mechanics unless it is obvious. Humility and discretion are described as things you must have stored long before the collapse. And a warning: standing out is a double-edged sword.
Physical Preparation: Gain Weight or Get Used to Hunger
Here disagreement is total. One stance advocates increasing intake of healthy fats and maintaining a healthy overweight of about five kilos: if you have a higher body fat percentage and your body consumes it correctly, you have more endurance than a skinny person. It relies on the fact that wild animals gorge themselves when they hunt, anticipating potential famines.
The opposing view is that there were no fat people in concentration camps, and everyone ended up equally emaciated. The one who suffers most is the one used to eating well. The recommendation launched is the opposite: have been eating little for some time so the body is accustomed and doesn't consume excessively. An example cited: if you find yourself without water and have two liters, it is best not to drink anything for 24 hours so the body understands there is none and minimizes loss.
The House as Fortress and the Weapon That Requires No License
Another line of response changes the focus: instead of hiding, fortify. Grade III door, windows, and some lead inside. For those without a firearm license, the 24 joule air rifle is suggested, the maximum power allowed in Spain, which is purchased with no procedure other than payment. With a 6.35mm model, descriptions say it pierces two hard canned goods, one inside the other, leaving holes upon exit. They cost just over 100 euros.
The catch is that an air rifle is useful for hunting rabbits or pigeons, not for defending yourself against an armed group. And here appears the only thesis held without flaws: the only way to survive is a community large enough with defensive capacity. Any lone wolf or isolated family with low lethal capability is destined for death.
The Basement, the Jar, and the Lesson from War
The most cited option for a house is a basement with a concealed entrance from inside, to go down to eat and hide. Some recall that during the war, their grandmother buried wheat so the army wouldn't take it. And there is a case that summarizes the problem better than any calculation: a grocery store in a town near the front during the Civil War, with a 50-liter jar of olive oil. The day after a looting, the owner went to the river and poured the 50 liters in front of everyone, saying it had gone bad. He preferred losing everything to being accused of hiding it.
The conclusion drawn from this is not optimistic. If the leader suspects you are storing something, no barrel, basement, or treasure map will hold. The only real defense is that there is nothing to find, or that what is there doesn't look like food. Everything else is survival fiction.
Summary of a discussion on Burbuja.info - Foro de economía, actualidad y política., translated from Spanish and reviewed before publication.
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