Forum user claims Spain's right can only win united under Alvise

A forum user argues that a divided PP and VOX hand victory to the PSOE, and that only a union with Alvise would change the useful vote; another user recalls he was singled out.

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Forum user claims Spain's right can only win united under Alvise
The right's useful vote would run through Alvise, according to a claim circulating on forums

In a forum debate, one participant argues that Spain's right would not win an election as long as the PP and VOX go their separate ways, and that the only way to add up votes would be to do so with Alvise Pérez. The claim is not a poll or an accredited survey, but an opinion expressed by one participant. In the same thread, another user recalls that Alvise has been singled out as an "agent of the socialist dirty-war apparatus", an unverified accusation. A tweet from a news account is also being shared, according to which Alvise Pérez proposed to the PP and VOX a union in the Senate in exchange for withdrawing himself across Spain, and that after both parties delivered, SALF would have kept its word.

If confirmed, the move would reshuffle the useful-vote board ahead of November 29, the date mentioned in the shared tweet. The forum user's logic is simple: if the right is divided, the PSOE profits from the fragmentation. If it unites, the distribution changes. And in that calculation, the name that emerges is neither Feijóo's nor Abascal's, but Alvise's.

The Senate as bargaining chip

The core of the proposal is a trade. According to the shared tweet, SALF offers to withdraw across Spain — that is, not to run for the Congress — in exchange for the PP and VOX coordinating their presence in the Senate. The proposal, spread through a news account, holds that the true useful vote for the Congress on November 29 is SALF, and that the party would have delivered its part after the two main right-wing parties reached the agreement.

There is a catch to the operation. Withdrawing from the Congress is not the same as disappearing: it means concentrating political capital in a territorial chamber where the distribution is different and where post-election deals weigh more than individual seats. Whoever designed the move knows that the Senate is the key to investiture in certain scenarios.

Internal resistance

Not everyone buys the story. The thread recalls that Alvise has been singled out as a presumed agitator serving outside interests, and that his record of confrontation with the media and with part of the conservative establishment generates more rejection than support among the PP's traditional electorate. For part of the analysis, distrust of his figure is the main obstacle to any merger.

Others argue the problem is one of perception: the SALF leader is associated with a provocative style that does not sit well with the centre-right voter who decides elections. And some point out, with a knowing smirk, that the debate over his suitability takes up more headlines than his concrete proposals.

The factor nobody mentions out loud

The conversations also surface an uncomfortable element: Alvise's family background, which some wield as an argument to discredit him. It is a personal detail used as a weapon, and it says more about those who use it than about the person targeted. That is how Spanish politics works: when the argument runs out, the family tree comes out.

What the numbers say

The argument rests on one piece of evidence: fragmentation of the right's vote has historically benefited the PSOE in elections. The question is whether PP, VOX and SALF combined under one umbrella would outperform their combined totals separately. Nobody has published the full calculation, broken down seat by seat, and that is precisely the missing piece.

Meanwhile, the narrative moves forward. And in politics, a narrative that gets repeated ends up becoming either a self-fulfilling prophecy or a trap that snaps shut.



The date of November 29 keeps coming up in the conversations as if it were a done deal. It is not. But the mere possibility of the right running united under a brand outside the two traditional parties has already pulled more threads than many election manifestos.

Summary of a discussion on Burbuja.info - Foro de economía, actualidad y política., translated from Spanish and reviewed before publication. Read the full discussion (14 replies).

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