Forum thread claims Spain suffers moral destruction

Forum debate on the 'sarracena destruction' of Spain

According to one participant, Spain has treated the PSOE as its official state religion for 45 years. The country boasts the worst birth rates, half the population hates its flag and anthem, and the right wing has clearly won only twice in four decades. This portrait emerges from a forum thread that starts with an uncomfortable comparison: Sweden. The user’s thesis is that Spain is not just worse than Sweden, but the clearest example of sarracena destruction in the West.

The starting point is a question raised in the thread: why does the left govern so much in Spain and so little in France or Germany? The user answers that Franco, with 40 years of educational and social control, did not create patriots, but quite the opposite: leftists, separatists, and hippies. A brilliant plan, he ironizes.

Francoist cinema and contempt for rural life

One paradox highlighted is that a supposedly ultra-nationalist regime did not produce films about Spain's great historical deeds, according to this participant. He mentions neither Hernán Cortés, nor Blas de Lezo, nor the Reconquista; noting that El Cid had to come from Hollywood, starring Charlton Heston. Instead, he says, there were comedies antiestéticaturing Paco Martínez Soria and the rustic grandfather arriving in the city, marveling at Soviet-inspired apartment blocks.

The thread argues that Francoist cinema despised the rural, the old, and the rustic. In contrast, English cinema loves the countryside and small villages. "Olé Paco," it reads. The user concludes that Franco was merely a stupid Catholic with typical Hispanic Catholic nonsense: forgiveness, love, turning the other cheek. And thus we are, full of vipers incubated during his 40 years.

PSOE as Mexico's PRI

Criticism extends to the alleged capture of the State by the PSOE. The case of an engineer who worked 40 years at Renfe (Spain's national railway company) is recounted: in 1982, the PSOE began hiring party members, useless people who bossed him around. When the PP arrived in 1996, they kept them all. When the PSOE returned in 2004, they fired the few PP employees and hired more of their own. The reds of 1982 retired from Renfe. A whole life of getting away with high public salaries.

The PSOE is compared to Mexico's PRI in its golden age and to Argentine Peronism. It is said that Spanish politics is becoming Latin Americanized, that the CUP would not reach 0.01% in any other European country, and that a charlatan like Pablo Iglesias would never have gotten beyond a small group of university trinc.

Street names as political thermometer

Another example given is street naming. Atocha Almudena Grandes, Bilbao Indalecio Prieto. In Madrid, municipalities like Parla, San Sebastián de los Reyes, or Fuenlabrada have street maps resembling those of socialist Bulgaria: Avenida Primero de Mayo, Calle Pablo Iglesias, Plaza de las Trece Rosas, Parque Largo Caballero, Paseo de los Trabajadores. The right wing has governed these municipalities and maintained them. And don't let them think of naming a street after Camilo José Cela or Vargas Llosa, because although they are Nobel laureates, they are seen as fascists.

There is joking about how León station might someday be named José Luis Rodríguez Zapatero, that Valladolid station should be renamed Concha Velasco in gratitude for her VAT campaign, and that when Almodóvar dies, we will be shocked. It is not ruled out that Castilla-La Mancha could lose its name.

Root diagnosis: demoralization and free will

The thread points out that demoralization is something greater than politics. It is discussed that if you study, you are accused of degree inflation; if you lack education, you fail every filter; if you are overqualified, it is your fault; you cannot risk leaving your job because you might not find another. It is added that you need a permanent job to be exploited by rental prices.

Another current holds that the problem is not Franco, but something much deeper: the rotting of the Spanish nation, which would date back to the Habsburgs and the uniform centralism imported from France. There is disagreement in associating current nationalisms with Carlism, which was thoroughly Spanish.

Some also argue that since World War II, European constitutions are wish lists to the Three Wise Men, and parties, including new ones, are just forms of the State itself to gather lost sheep.

International comparison and conclusion

It is mentioned that in France, according to one user, at least there is reaction; in Italy, after years of leftist garbage and European impositions, they are starting to do something. But here there is no reaction, nor is it expected. It ends with the Dutch: a super-rich country for centuries, living off theft, exporting a Black Legend, and now sending its entire lumpenproletariat abroad. Spain, uniquely zascandil, spent more than half of what it extracted from America trying to bring civilization to them.

The closing is a question hovering over the entire thread: how do you unravel this? The suggested answer is that only VOX remains, and even that is uncertain. With these materials, the basket can only be what it is.