Parecidos razonables: Spain vs. China

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Llevaba tiempo oyendo hablar de que se estaba formando una burbuja inmobiliaria en China, pero no había llegado a mis manos ningún informe al respecto, hasta hoy.
Me he quedado de piedra. El asunto no es que se esté formando una burbuja, es que ya hay una burbuja impresionante.
Fijáos en lo que he puesto en negrita, a ver a qué os suena. Y en lo que sabemos que termina.
Lo tienen todo: exceso de crédito, visillerismo, grandes especuladores, corrupción a todos los niveles, precios infladísimos, pasapiseros...
Qué hostión se van a dar.

On Sept. 10, China Overseas Land and Investment, a Hong Kong-listed company and a subsidiary of state-owned China State Construction Engineering Corp., purchased a prime piece of real estate in the Putuo district in downtown Shanghai. The company paid 7.006 billion yuan ($1.026 billion) for the undeveloped property, which will amount to an average of 22,409.3 yuan ($3,283.9) per square meter of floor space (just in land costs) once the designed residential building is constructed.

The purchase created China's newest "land king," a term for the real estate developer who pays the highest price for a piece of real estate during a land auction. And 7.006 billion yuan was the highest price ever paid for a piece of Chinese real estate for any purpose - residential or commercial. The milestone is a result of an increasingly intense competition for land in major cities that began early in the year, when Beijing began distributing stimulus money to various industries - including the real estate sector - to sustain the economy. As a result, land prices have soared throughout China. And with increasing speculative investment in residential real estate, the market faces a surging bubble that jeopardizes the country's long-term economic development.



Since 1998, real estate investment in China has accounted for more than 10 percent of the country's gross domestic product (GDP), compared to only 3 percent to 5 percent in the United States. Such investment is also closely associated with many other industries, such as construction and finance, and it provides an abundance of jobs. Therefore, it is seen as a critical pillar of China's economy and enjoys favorable policies from the government and state-owned banks (more than 70 percent of real estate investment in China comes from bank loans). At the same time, real estate developers, local government officials and investors have escalated housing prices across the country by acquiring massive land holdings, limiting the supply and inflating prices, creating a real estate bubble that is not sustainable in the long run.

The bubble has grown mainly on the residential side of the market, where there is more demand and higher profits to be made. However, while fewer developers and investors have been chasing nonresidential projects, Beijing's 4 trillion yuan ($586 billion) stimulus package in early 2009 has generated more interest and activity in the commercial side. Indeed, there are signs that commercial real estate may also be headed for a bubble, and STRATFOR will be watching the situation closely.




Origins of the Bubble
Since 1978, China's pace of urbanization has increased dramatically, with the number of middle-size and large cities (those having nonagricultural populations of more than 200,000) growing rapidly. Beginning in 1985, economic reforms implemented in urban areas to make China's planned economy more market-oriented added even more momentum to the real estate boom, with real estate investment increasing by 71 percent by 1987. The government's macroeconomic policy of monetary belt-tightening helped cool this overheated market, which was further tempered by the government's continuing to provide housing for state employees (fu li fen fang, or "welfare housing").

However, when the state significantly cut back on its welfare housing program in 1998, the Chinese perception of personal property changed, and this would have an important impact on the real estate sector. The government began this privatization process by making a private dwelling a "commodity" and granting the purchaser the right to own a newly built house for 70 years. (Likewise, the developer who buys the property on which residential or commercial buildings are to be constructed may own that property for 70 years.) Home ownership in China could now be a sound financial investment.

Thus, the residential real estate market would boom in almost every urban area in China - and particularly in the "first-tier" and "second-tier" cities (only Beijing, Shenzhen, Guangzhou and Shanghai are in the first tier, with more than 20 cities, and mostly provincial capitals or coastal ports are in the second tier). But rising land prices would eventually put housing prices out of reach for the general public. In Dongguan, a coastal second-tier city in Guangdong province, land prices averaged 4,957 yuan ($726.42) per square meter in 2007, a more than 500 percent increase from 2003, while personal disposable income increased 24 percent during the same period (from 20,526 yuan [$3,008] to 27,025 yuan [$3,960] per year).

A 2006 survey conducted by the National Development and Reform Commission showed that the average ratio between housing prices and income was approaching 12:1 in many large and middle-size cities in China (in Beijing it had reached 27:1). Twelve to one is significantly higher than the World Bank's suggested affordability ratio of 5:1 and the United Nations' 3:1. The problem was compounded by the fact that, of the more than 80 percent of Chinese who owned their own homes in urban areas (generally considered cities with populations of more than 20,000), 54.1 percent were making monthly mortgage payments that constituted 20 percent to 50 percent of their monthly incomes.


The Recovery Bubble
amowing a temporary drop toward the end of 2007, land prices rose steadily, then began surging again with Beijing's stimulus package and a flood of easy credit in 2009. With much of this money flowing into the real estate sector, major beneficiaries included large state-owned enterprises (SOEs) involved in speculative real estate and housing investment, contributing to the inflating bubble. Among the 10 highest-priced land purchases in major cities in the first half of 2009, 60 percent went to SOEs.

Paradoxically, as the global financial crisis continues, China sees little choice but to loosen its monetary policy even further, antiestéticaring the opposite would curtail economic growth and result in massive unemployment, which could lead to social instability. Beijing knows that one of the country's underlying economic problems continues to be an overheated real estate market, but it also knows that the real long-term solution - limiting the flow of cash and credit - could have dire socio-economic ramifications. Meanwhile, real estate developers, government officials and investors continue to speculate on real estate, raising land and housing prices.

As housing prices continue to rise, a parallel trend is manifesting itself - rising vacancy rates in urban areas. A 2009 report by the Shanghai Yiju Real Estate Research Institute revealed that, by the end of 2008, the average vacancy rate for "commodity housing" (as opposed to welfare housing) in Beijing was 16.64 percent, and vacancies reached as high as 30 percent in some districts. Most of these vacant houses, however, are not unsold ones. They have been purchased by investors as speculative investments. While there are fewer and fewer ordinary people who can afford to buy houses, there is still excessive demand for investment housing - pressure that continues to drive up the prices.

This closed loop in the Chinese real estate market is facilitated by the country's political and bureaucratic system. In China, all land is initially owned by the state, and local governments have the sole authority to sell it. And income from property taxes and land sales are a primary source of revenue for local jurisdictions. According to estimates by the State Council's Development and Research Center, tax revenue from the land in some jurisdictions accounts for 40 percent of the local budget. Moreover, net income from land sales accounts for more than 60 percent of the local governments' extra-budgetary revenue. The soft budget and lack of accountability to the people reinforces the local governments' incentive to expand their real estate investments without much concern for cost or impact on public services.

Economic performance also is the prime prerequisite for bureaucratic advancement, which gives local officials the incentive to generate as much revenue as possible through land auctions. And this generally involves a level of collusion - and corruption - among government officials, real estate developers and investors.

One typical strategy is for a developer to buy a big chunk of urban land from the local government but leave the land undeveloped, or build on only a small portion of it, thereby keeping the housing supply limited. Despite various state policies to lower land prices in order to make homes more affordable, local government officials and real estate developers control the land auctions. When a lower sale price is dictated from above, it is easy enough for the local sponsors to officially deem the auction a failure. Even when the developer does build houses on the property, a speculative investor, working hand in hand with the developer and government officials, can bribe both parties to ensure that he can buy all the houses at a low volume price and keep them off the market, thereby maintaining a limited supply and high prices.

Another factor that enters the equation is a cultural one. The Chinese people generally prefer to buy new houses, as opposed to renting homes or buying secondary houses in which people have already lived. Indeed, in urban areas, marriage proposals often include a promise to buy a new commodity house. As a result, the secondary housing market remains very small in comparison (due also to fewer available bank loans for lived-in houses and the complicated process involved in transferring ownership).

All of these factors contribute to the burgeoning real estate bubble - and make it difficult to predict when that bubble will burst. With 70 percent of real estate investment in China coming from bank loans, a dramatic drop in land values could send shock waves throughout the economy. There are already signs of decline. In Shenzhen, one of China's first-tier cities, real estate prices have been dropping for the past two years (30 percent for housing), and many developers and speculators have suffered great losses. The threat looms in other large cities such as Beijing and Shanghai and may be emerging in many second-tier cities as well.

Given the current global economy and the economic balancing act it must maintain domestically, Beijing has few good choices. It must keep enough cash flowing to maintain economic growth and social stability in the short term while tightening credit to avoid a tsunami of bad loans and a market collapse over the long term. Certainly, Beijing does not want to face the kind of collapse in the housing market that Japan experienced in the 1990s, which triggered a financial crisis and more than a decade of economic malaise.

But in China's real estate, as in most sectors of this vast and complex land, implementing and enforcing prudent regulation has never been an easy task
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average ratio between housing prices and income was approaching 12:1 in many large and middle-size cities in China (in Beijing it had reached 27:1)
Tremendo, juancarlos. Si China explota las consecuencias a escala mundial pueden ser imprevisibles (o al menos yo no llego a analizarlas, si alguien pone alguna idea se agracece).
 

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average ratio between housing prices and income was approaching 12:1 in many large and middle-size cities in China (in Beijing it had reached 27:1)
Inflación post-olímpica en Pekin?? puede ser?? Si es así, de la que nos hemos librado en Madridless
 

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China puede ser hasta peor que españa, por la tremenda falta de cohesión social. Pero lo que más aterra es que, supuestamente, China iba a salvar al mundo con sus inversiones en EEUU etc...
 

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en China el sector financiero no es tan fuerte como fuera, y depende mayoritariamente del estado. Vamos, que como estalle la burbuja china, la mitad de los bancos van a la quiebra y la otra mitad a salvarlos el estado.
O sea, que lo van a pasar muy mal.
La diferencia es que entran muchas divisas y tal vez eso solucione parte del problema, a diferencia de España, donde tenemos deficit comercial y nadie invierte ya un duro.
 

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Tremendo, juancarlos. Si China explota las consecuencias a escala mundial pueden ser imprevisibles (o al menos yo no llego a analizarlas, si alguien pone alguna idea se agracece).
Si es una bomba atomica (China), que les va a estallar a los Americanos y los daños colaterales, ya vos podeis imaginar cuales van a ser.
 

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Un ingeniero en China viene a ganar unos 1500€/mes, un currela 150€/mes, con esos sueldos no hay dios que se compre casa allí con esos precios el m2. Otra cosa, creo que los extranjeros no pueden comprar vivienda allí, y otra cosa muy importante, si quieres vender en China tienes que trabajar en China. Casi casi como aquí :D. Que nos meten cosa poco buena por un tubo, que hasta los souvenirs que compran los guiris están echos fuera.
 

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Si estallara la burbuja China, que estallará como todas, ¿Podría ocurrir que China empezara a pagar y poner en circulación las montañas de dólares que tiene y precipitar el aumento de inflación y la posterior caída de la moneda USA?
 

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Si estallara la burbuja China, que estallará como todas, ¿Podría ocurrir que China empezara a pagar y poner en circulación las montañas de dólares que tiene y precipitar el aumento de inflación y la posterior caída de la moneda USA?
Eso es lo que llevamos diciendo en el dólar insumergible, desde que China anunció hace meses que iba a obligar a sus bancos a dar más crédito (y la subsecuente burbuja que se iba a formar). Es lo que tiene tener ahorros.
 

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Los mandarines serán los próximos.

Por lo que se ve, quieren emular a Hispanistán en las mejores prácticas inmobiliarias.
 

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Eso es lo que llevamos diciendo en el dólar insumergible, desde que China anunció hace meses que iba a obligar a sus bancos a dar más crédito (y la subsecuente burbuja que se iba a formar). Es lo que tiene tener ahorros.
Era una pregunta retórica para los que no siguen el hilo. ;)
 

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Teniendo en cuenta el control que tiene el estado sobre la economía dudo mucho que eso esté pasando porque la situación se les haya ido de las manos, sobre todo teniendo varios ejemplos recientes en el mundo de burbuja inmobiliaria (Spain, USA, UK) seguro que saben perfectamente a dónde lleva esa situación.

Por otro lado, con esos sueldos ¿quién puede comprarse un piso? si encima los extranjeros no pueden hacerlo. O se hipotecan por varias generaciones o sólo los compran los ricos.

Lo bueno que tienen es que disponen de pasta a espuertas, no necesitan pedirla prestada fuera; igual es una buena manera de gastarse los miles de millones de $ que tienen antes de que estos dejen de tener valor.
 

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Era una pregunta retórica para los que no siguen el hilo. ;)
Lo que pasa es que ahora el gobierno chino está promoviendo que todos sus ciudadanos compren oro y plata. Hasta en los bancos de los pueblos más pequeños se vende oro y planta. Esto podría significar que no tienen intención de aguantar tanto su moneda y de hacer que siga al dólar "hasta los infiernos" para mantener la competitividad (es decir, mano de obra barata), mientras mantienen los ahorros pero ahora en metales. Es otra posibilidada más. Lo cierto es que la apusta del gobierno chino por los metales es muy muy fuerte. Veremos.
 

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Teniendo en cuenta el control que tiene el estado sobre la economía dudo mucho que eso esté pasando porque la situación se les haya ido de las manos, sobre todo teniendo varios ejemplos recientes en el mundo de burbuja inmobiliaria (Spain, USA, UK) seguro que saben perfectamente a dónde lleva esa situación.
Te crees que las economías occidentales no están tan centralizadas como la china? En apariencia no, pero si miras debajo de la teoría, verás que a la práctica sí lo están.
 

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La China actual se parece a la España de los 70-80.

Aqui explotó la burbuja, no solo por los precios, sino por la falta de demanda y la deuda exterior que no podía crecer más.

China NO es la España actual, por varias razones.

1.- En Shanghai y Beijing contruyen hasta 100 alturas, y los edificios residenciales facilmente tienen 30 pisos. 3000 dolares por metro cuadrado de SUELO, puede convertirse tranquilamente en 100 dolares por metro cuadrado de techo construido residencial gastados en el suelo. En una capital hispanistaní (BCN o MAD) un 60% del precio del metro construido es la parte correspondiente del suelo, y si TODAVIA venden el m2 a 3000... pues tenemos que la parte proporcional de precio de suelo que corresponde cada metro cuadrado construido vale 1800 euros, solo el suelo. 100$ vs 1800Euros.

2.- Las ciudades Chinas están en crecimiento, allí mucha gente va del campo a la ciudad. En España empieza a pasar justo lo contrario. Allí van a tener demanda durante bastante tiempo, aqui la presión demográfica es negativa para la demanda.

3.- Los chinos tienen ahorros, muchos ahorros. Una de las cosas que compran son tochos, pero no la única. También compran muchisimo oro de inversión. No tiene nada de malo gastarse los ahorros en comprar un piso.

4.- Las jovenes son unas visilleras de cuidado, y es cierto que se endeudan para comprar piso. Pero LAS FAMILIAS no están endeudadas, porque sus padres solo han tenido un hijo y tienen unos ahorros del copón. Familia tipica china: 4 abuelos, dos padres, y dos nietos (a una pareja de hijos únicos les dejan tener dos niños). Es decir, los que ahora se endeudan tienen un colchón familiar muy considerable, porque prácticamente todos son hijos unicos y por lo tanto pueden contar con el patrimonio de los progenitores en caso de necesidad.

No niego que en algunas zonas de Shanghai y Beijing se haya producido un burbujote de cuidado, como siempre se produce en ciudades que crecen a golpe de evento global (los juegos de 2008, la exposición universal de 2010), pero de ahí a decir que China está burbujeada como España.... Shang y Beijing contienen 60millones de personas de los 1300 millones de chinos. Extraigan sus conclusiones.