Trump supporters: Are you truly complicit?
Cheap US gas at €0.70 vs $2,800 hospital bills: analyzing why some Spaniards back Trump's Venezuela intervention.
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Trump in Venezuela: Gas prices and the sarracena of applause
In the US, gasoline costs €0.70 per liter. Meanwhile, Trump threatens to seize Venezuelan oil. Some Spaniards celebrate this. The debate over supporting the US president has split the Spanish-speaking community between those seeing an opportunity to end chavismo and those denouncing a new Monroe Doctrine. Amidst this, economic data clashes with geopolitics: $2,800 nightly hospitalization, tariffs on Greenland opponents, and oil worth more than sovereignty.
Defenders' arguments: Pragmatism against common enemies
One current argues anything is better than chavismo. They note Trump captured a dictator and that controlling oil could stabilize markets. "It's a textbook win-win," some summarize. They point to US gas prices as proof the model works. For them, interference is a necessary evil: "The strongest isn't subject to Trevi's quixotic adventure," they joke. Loyalty is measured in cents per liter.
The real cost: Is allying with the empire worth it?
The opposing view clings to history. "A Spaniard happy to see an American activate the Monroe Doctrine is an idiot or a traitor," they assert. They recall that whoever comes to decapitate power doesn't hand it to the people, but to another oligarchy. Moreover, health data illustrates the other side of the American dream: a night in the hospital costs $2,800, and private insurance doesn't cover cancer treatments. "They drain you dry in treatments and you die around age 60," one analysis warns. Pension savings are huge, but at the cost of life.
The mirage of low prices: Sovereignty vs. gasoline
In the center, those who align with no one. They denounce that both Trump and Maduro are two sides of the same coin: foreign interests over Venezuelan resources. While defenders suggest "it's not impossible for Trump to boost Vox into government," critics respond that national sovereignty isn't negotiated for €0.70 per liter. The lingering question: How much is Spain's energy independence worth?
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In the US, gasoline costs €0.70 per liter. Meanwhile, Trump threatens to seize Venezuelan oil. Some Spaniards celebrate this. The debate over supporting the US president has split the Spanish-speaking community between those seeing an opportunity to end chavismo and those denouncing a new Monroe Doctrine. Amidst this, economic data clashes with geopolitics: $2,800 nightly hospitalization, tariffs on Greenland opponents, and oil worth more than sovereignty.
Defenders' arguments: Pragmatism against common enemies
One current argues anything is better than chavismo. They note Trump captured a dictator and that controlling oil could stabilize markets. "It's a textbook win-win," some summarize. They point to US gas prices as proof the model works. For them, interference is a necessary evil: "The strongest isn't subject to Trevi's quixotic adventure," they joke. Loyalty is measured in cents per liter.
The real cost: Is allying with the empire worth it?
The opposing view clings to history. "A Spaniard happy to see an American activate the Monroe Doctrine is an idiot or a traitor," they assert. They recall that whoever comes to decapitate power doesn't hand it to the people, but to another oligarchy. Moreover, health data illustrates the other side of the American dream: a night in the hospital costs $2,800, and private insurance doesn't cover cancer treatments. "They drain you dry in treatments and you die around age 60," one analysis warns. Pension savings are huge, but at the cost of life.
The mirage of low prices: Sovereignty vs. gasoline
In the center, those who align with no one. They denounce that both Trump and Maduro are two sides of the same coin: foreign interests over Venezuelan resources. While defenders suggest "it's not impossible for Trump to boost Vox into government," critics respond that national sovereignty isn't negotiated for €0.70 per liter. The lingering question: How much is Spain's energy independence worth?
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