Spain's fertility crisis: Half of women won't become mothers

Online forum discusses Tinder, declining birth rates, and reluctance to start families in Spain.

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Tinder and the Baby Bust: The Debate on Women Who Don't Want Children

Why do white women of childbearing age not want children? This question dominates a debate active for 516 days with 319 replies in a prepper forum. The discussion starts by asking if these women's mindset can be changed. Most say no, calling the trend irreversible. Data cited points to a global decline in birth rates, except in a few "stinking holes." In Spain, the figure is stark: 1 out of every 2 Spanish women of childbearing age will never become a mother.

The Diagnosis: Empowerment, Apps, and Lack of Commitment

The dominant analysis cites intertwined causes. Some argue women are empowered and find no man worthy, leading them to raise dogs instead of kids. Others blame men using dating apps who only seek casual sens without formalizing relationships or seeking stable partners. They claim female psychology would change if men committed. However, not everyone agrees. Some see it as structural: forums like Reddit and Quora promote antinatalism, and social welfare policies don't incentivize motherhood. It's noted that Northern Europe offers €500 per child plus childcare, while in Spain, money goes to the elderly. "If you pay old people, you get old people," one user summarizes.

Racial and Geographic Divide: Who Is Having Children?

A part of the debate introduces controversial racial and geographic factors. It claims white women refuse to have children only if their partner is a white man, but will have five or more if the partner is a black man. These assertions, presented as personal observations, lack verifiable data and mix with real demographic statistics. Nigeria's population grew from 45 million in 1960 to 230 million in 2022, with its birth rate dropping only from 6.4 to 5.3. In contrast, Europe fell from 2.3 to 1.3 children per woman. Some conclude antinatalism only affects white countries, not African or Asian ones where overpopulation persists. In 1900 Africa had 100 million inhabitants; now there are 1.5 billion, they emphasize.

The Role of Dating Apps: Tinder as a Social Thermometer

Tinder is seen as the epicenter. Users claim there are 99 men for every 100 subscribers, and the single woman among them seeks a lesbian relationship. Another comment says Tinder is full of fake profiles and AI has failed to build trust: men distrust women due to gender laws, legal asymmetry, and male-specific crimes. OnlyFans has replaced contact websites, and women don't need Tinder to have dozens of admirers 24/7. Their catalog of options allows them to reject everyone and keep the same profile. Men without dates for years might have good relationships in real life, but the dating system prevents it.

Evolution of the Debate: From Outrage to Resignation

Over 516 days, the tone shifted. Initially, indignation and blame-seeking prevailed: targeting women, immigrants, forums, and social policies. Over time, resignation set in. It's observed that in the 30-40 age group, only 30% of women have children, mostly just one. The rest focus on travel or career growth. We are dead, one user states. Others are indifferent: those who don't want families welcome fewer women wanting "larvae." The most repeated conclusion is that Spain is dying out without noticing.

Is There a Solution? Pessimism Prevails

The initial question about changing these women's minds receives mostly negative answers. Proposals include cutting social aid, pensions, and public jobs, though doubts remain about effectiveness. Suggestions for men to commit and seek partners rather than casual sens are made, but the dating market is deemed broken. Some hope birth rates fall faster in third-world countries to balance the scales. Meanwhile, demographic reality continues. On Tinder, fake profiles and desperate users keep matching.

Summary of a discussion on Burbuja.info - Foro de economía, actualidad y política., translated from Spanish and reviewed before publication. Read the full discussion (328 replies).

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