Russia is a weak, pathetic banana republic, unable to wage war on Europe, users say
Can Russia attack Europe? On Burbuja.info, some see it as a banana republic while others warn of its nuclear power. 35 replies in the debate.
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Russia cannot attack Europe: the debate splitting the forum
Can Russia really launch a war against Europe? The debate in the World War III subforum has pitted those who see Russia as a banana republic with no military capability against those who point to its nuclear arsenal. With 35 replies over 23 days, the discussion has escalated from war logistics to outright denial of atomic weapons themselves.
The case for Russian weakness
User Tacupay has been the main driving force behind the idea that Russia is a weak and pathetic country. According to him, "they can barely hold the line in Ukraine by throwing cannon fodder at it" and its army is crippled. He goes further: he denies the existence of functional nuclear weapons, calling them "a global scam like sustancia ilegal and bicho". He claims Russia does not have a single operational nuclear bomb and that Pilingui is "pretty much the same as Maduro, an oil dictator".
The rebuttals: the nuclear ghost and real capability
Forum members like pepetemete and Eslacaña fight back with facts. They point out that a conventional war would be impossible because of the demographic gap (143 million versus the EU's 450 million) and that any conflict would be nuclear. Eslacaña lists Russia's main missiles: Sarmat, Yars, Avangard, Kinzhal, Burevestnik and Oreshnik, claiming they are designed to evade missile defenses. Pepetemete insists Russia could use an Oreshnik and destroy targets, though Tacupay retorts that "it didn't kill anyone".
The debate heats up when European welfare spending is mentioned as an indicator of economic capacity to sustain a war. Brus states that in Spain alone the SEPE (Spain's public employment service) will spend 20,000 million euros on benefits and 4,000 million on the IMV (minimum vital income scheme), and that with that money three wars like Ukraine's could be funded. Others, like dragon33, point out that this spending is financed through inflation.
The thread has descended into insults and threats, with one user wishing that "the first nuclear bomb lands right on your ing head". But what it reveals is a deep divide: while some believe Russia is a paper tiger, others warn that its nuclear arsenal is real and that underestimating it would be a mistake.
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Can Russia really launch a war against Europe? The debate in the World War III subforum has pitted those who see Russia as a banana republic with no military capability against those who point to its nuclear arsenal. With 35 replies over 23 days, the discussion has escalated from war logistics to outright denial of atomic weapons themselves.
The case for Russian weakness
User Tacupay has been the main driving force behind the idea that Russia is a weak and pathetic country. According to him, "they can barely hold the line in Ukraine by throwing cannon fodder at it" and its army is crippled. He goes further: he denies the existence of functional nuclear weapons, calling them "a global scam like sustancia ilegal and bicho". He claims Russia does not have a single operational nuclear bomb and that Pilingui is "pretty much the same as Maduro, an oil dictator".
The rebuttals: the nuclear ghost and real capability
Forum members like pepetemete and Eslacaña fight back with facts. They point out that a conventional war would be impossible because of the demographic gap (143 million versus the EU's 450 million) and that any conflict would be nuclear. Eslacaña lists Russia's main missiles: Sarmat, Yars, Avangard, Kinzhal, Burevestnik and Oreshnik, claiming they are designed to evade missile defenses. Pepetemete insists Russia could use an Oreshnik and destroy targets, though Tacupay retorts that "it didn't kill anyone".
The debate heats up when European welfare spending is mentioned as an indicator of economic capacity to sustain a war. Brus states that in Spain alone the SEPE (Spain's public employment service) will spend 20,000 million euros on benefits and 4,000 million on the IMV (minimum vital income scheme), and that with that money three wars like Ukraine's could be funded. Others, like dragon33, point out that this spending is financed through inflation.
The thread has descended into insults and threats, with one user wishing that "the first nuclear bomb lands right on your ing head". But what it reveals is a deep divide: while some believe Russia is a paper tiger, others warn that its nuclear arsenal is real and that underestimating it would be a mistake.
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