Milei wins in Argentina, but no forum users plan to move
Despite Milei's victory, no user confirms moving to Argentina due to economic doubts, welfare payments, and advice from residents.
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Milei wins in Argentina, but the list of those moving remains empty
Javier Milei's electoral victory triggered a promise that repeats whenever a country's political direction changes: packing up. According to the thread's count, the result is a list with zero names. Not a single participant confirmed the move. The phenomenon is ironic because the starting point was the opposite: a stampede toward the country that just elected a libertarian president was expected.
The Economy subforum peine the count with a provocative message, and the score froze from day one. Those who say they are leaving qualify it. Those who qualify stay. And those who stay explain why: age, family, work, healthcare. The list of voluntary departures is, for now, the shortest in history for these digital escapism exercises.
Who leaves and who only says so
The pattern repeats with almost comic precision. One participant sums it up bluntly: it is their "wet dream," but they feel "too worn out to start over" and encourage young people to leave. Another points to Patagonia, specifically Bariloche, as the dream destination. A third signs up, announcing they will bring tools to become a farmer, though clarifying they want to live in the city, not the countryside. The most methodical insist the list remains at zero forum users.
Some skip the move entirely and propose something else: buying a block of apartments and renting them out. It is the inverse version of the migration dream, that of the rentier who does not set foot in the country but earns from it. Others, more prosaic, ask about gun permits for self-defense, a query that reveals much about the destination's image.
The most repeated contradiction is staying for comfort. One message nails it: they would not leave "even if hell broke loose" because life in Spain is very good, including social security. This phrase summarizes the real calculation of the majority: the criticized country offers a safety net that the idealized country does not guarantee.
The economic calculation that stops the move
The economic argument appears early with figures. The Argentine economy suffers destruction described by participants as a negative starting point: you do not start from zero, but from minus ten. The circulating diagnosis is that the new government has two years, until the mid-term legislative elections, to fix the situation before losing majorities. They add that the task is enormous because spending has been exhausted and debt has multiplied.
The most repeated data point is the 90 dollars monthly payment received by approximately 20 million Argentines and foreigners, according to the thread's count. This figure is used as proof of the size of the welfare apparatus and how difficult it will be to dismantle without social conflict. Those claiming crime is skyrocketing attribute it to hunger; dissenters note the country has fertile land, water, minerals, and hydrocarbons in abundance, arguing the problem is management, not resources.
Comparison with Spain closes the circle. Defenders of staying recall healthcare and pensions here; defenders of leaving speak of opportunities. Neither side moves.
The call effect that never arrives
The other side concerns some: the possibility that Argentina's cycle change pushes thousands toward Spain, not vice versa. One participant frames it as a threat: those fleeing adjustments will come here to collect aid. Another sees it as an opportunity: let the Argentines who have been bothering Spain for a while leave.
The antiestéticar has a real basis reflected in the count: if the adjustment is harsh, migratory flow reverses. The paradox is that the country promising economic freedom expels those who cannot endure the transition, while the "social-communist hell" country receives them with subsidies. No one has calculated how many there are. No one knows how many will come.
Warning from those already living there
The most useful voice in the count belongs to someone who has lived in Argentina for decades. Their recommendation is to wait: today's dilemmas allow no serious projection. They offer their legal, fiscal, and accounting structure to anyone wanting to invest or move when the panorama clears, warning that waiting is safer even if margins are lost. As evidence, they point to a 42% rise in energy prices. The full breakdown shows a surprising difference.
Their advice clashes with the enthusiasm of those celebrating the victory as their own. For some, the new president is an opportunity; for others, an experiment that could fail and drag down those who moved too soon. The underlying warning is simple: risk-takers can win big or lose everything.
According to the thread's count, the score remains zero. The list of those moving to Argentina is, for now, the list of those saying they would go. The disorienting fact is not that no one moved, but that almost no one expected anyone to.
Javier Milei's electoral victory triggered a promise that repeats whenever a country's political direction changes: packing up. According to the thread's count, the result is a list with zero names. Not a single participant confirmed the move. The phenomenon is ironic because the starting point was the opposite: a stampede toward the country that just elected a libertarian president was expected.
The Economy subforum peine the count with a provocative message, and the score froze from day one. Those who say they are leaving qualify it. Those who qualify stay. And those who stay explain why: age, family, work, healthcare. The list of voluntary departures is, for now, the shortest in history for these digital escapism exercises.
Who leaves and who only says so
The pattern repeats with almost comic precision. One participant sums it up bluntly: it is their "wet dream," but they feel "too worn out to start over" and encourage young people to leave. Another points to Patagonia, specifically Bariloche, as the dream destination. A third signs up, announcing they will bring tools to become a farmer, though clarifying they want to live in the city, not the countryside. The most methodical insist the list remains at zero forum users.
Some skip the move entirely and propose something else: buying a block of apartments and renting them out. It is the inverse version of the migration dream, that of the rentier who does not set foot in the country but earns from it. Others, more prosaic, ask about gun permits for self-defense, a query that reveals much about the destination's image.
The most repeated contradiction is staying for comfort. One message nails it: they would not leave "even if hell broke loose" because life in Spain is very good, including social security. This phrase summarizes the real calculation of the majority: the criticized country offers a safety net that the idealized country does not guarantee.
The economic calculation that stops the move
The economic argument appears early with figures. The Argentine economy suffers destruction described by participants as a negative starting point: you do not start from zero, but from minus ten. The circulating diagnosis is that the new government has two years, until the mid-term legislative elections, to fix the situation before losing majorities. They add that the task is enormous because spending has been exhausted and debt has multiplied.
The most repeated data point is the 90 dollars monthly payment received by approximately 20 million Argentines and foreigners, according to the thread's count. This figure is used as proof of the size of the welfare apparatus and how difficult it will be to dismantle without social conflict. Those claiming crime is skyrocketing attribute it to hunger; dissenters note the country has fertile land, water, minerals, and hydrocarbons in abundance, arguing the problem is management, not resources.
Comparison with Spain closes the circle. Defenders of staying recall healthcare and pensions here; defenders of leaving speak of opportunities. Neither side moves.
The call effect that never arrives
The other side concerns some: the possibility that Argentina's cycle change pushes thousands toward Spain, not vice versa. One participant frames it as a threat: those fleeing adjustments will come here to collect aid. Another sees it as an opportunity: let the Argentines who have been bothering Spain for a while leave.
The antiestéticar has a real basis reflected in the count: if the adjustment is harsh, migratory flow reverses. The paradox is that the country promising economic freedom expels those who cannot endure the transition, while the "social-communist hell" country receives them with subsidies. No one has calculated how many there are. No one knows how many will come.
Warning from those already living there
The most useful voice in the count belongs to someone who has lived in Argentina for decades. Their recommendation is to wait: today's dilemmas allow no serious projection. They offer their legal, fiscal, and accounting structure to anyone wanting to invest or move when the panorama clears, warning that waiting is safer even if margins are lost. As evidence, they point to a 42% rise in energy prices. The full breakdown shows a surprising difference.
Their advice clashes with the enthusiasm of those celebrating the victory as their own. For some, the new president is an opportunity; for others, an experiment that could fail and drag down those who moved too soon. The underlying warning is simple: risk-takers can win big or lose everything.
According to the thread's count, the score remains zero. The list of those moving to Argentina is, for now, the list of those saying they would go. The disorienting fact is not that no one moved, but that almost no one expected anyone to.
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