I visited Barcelona and it broke my heart
A tourist recounts his disappointment with Barcelona: stench, filth and Islamization. The Burbuja.info forum lights up with 51 replies comparing it to Madrid.
English · Original discussion in Spanish · Published
Barcelona, a tourist's heartbreak and the debate that never ends
"Some streets smell like shit mixed with smoke. But the worst part is the Sarracinization." That's how Marty McFlyy's thread on Burbuja.info opens, and in 23 days it has generated 51 replies that have turned his complaint into a barometer of perceptions about Barcelona's decline. Amid testimonies from residents, cross accusations and census data, the thread drips with outright skepticism toward the city's official narrative.
A first-hand account
User Marty McFlyy says that while walking through certain streets he found feces that "I think are from people, not dogs," and that you hear more Segarro or Pakistani than Spanish. Several forum members agree: "Imagine those of us who were born here and still live here," writes VesperX, who describes the city as "a dump full of scrap collectors, Moors, tacky tourists and separatists." Ironic jabs are not missing: "And do you hear much Catalan?" asks la_trotona. "I heard it once among some young kids. It seemed picturesque to me," replies Profesor.Poopsnagle.
But not everyone shares the diagnosis. Some users accuse the author of exaggerating or of not knowing the city. "Be careful where you go," snaps jota1971, while Testazz quips: "Next time, let me know and I'll give you a guided tour."
Madrid or Barcelona? The battle of the data
The thread drifts into a comparison with Madrid. Manzanares posts municipal census charts: "Madrid is the city with the most 'segarros' and Africans in Spain." According to his figures, Madrid would have 32,000 Segarro (0.86%) and Barcelona 19,353 (1.13%). But Ricardo-Barcelona counters that "illegals don't register" and that in the Raval or Besós the foreign population outnumbers the local one. "Statistics are the justification for politicians' lies," he declares. The debate exposes the gap between official data and street-level perception, a classic in this community.
The political diagnosis
"They voted for a lgtb mayor and before that a pseudolesbian Podemos type. Let them enjoy what they voted for," writes dcisneros. Others attack the independence movement: "The retarded Catalan nationalists and the invaders have turned Barcelona into a dung heap," says Klapaucius. The shadow of political management looms over every reply, with a recurring message: citizens are to blame for not demanding answers.
The thread reaches no consensus, but it leaves an impression: for many forum members, Barcelona is no longer what it used to be. Is it perception or reality? The data convince no one, and the wound remains open.
Related debates on the forum
"Some streets smell like shit mixed with smoke. But the worst part is the Sarracinization." That's how Marty McFlyy's thread on Burbuja.info opens, and in 23 days it has generated 51 replies that have turned his complaint into a barometer of perceptions about Barcelona's decline. Amid testimonies from residents, cross accusations and census data, the thread drips with outright skepticism toward the city's official narrative.
A first-hand account
User Marty McFlyy says that while walking through certain streets he found feces that "I think are from people, not dogs," and that you hear more Segarro or Pakistani than Spanish. Several forum members agree: "Imagine those of us who were born here and still live here," writes VesperX, who describes the city as "a dump full of scrap collectors, Moors, tacky tourists and separatists." Ironic jabs are not missing: "And do you hear much Catalan?" asks la_trotona. "I heard it once among some young kids. It seemed picturesque to me," replies Profesor.Poopsnagle.
But not everyone shares the diagnosis. Some users accuse the author of exaggerating or of not knowing the city. "Be careful where you go," snaps jota1971, while Testazz quips: "Next time, let me know and I'll give you a guided tour."
Madrid or Barcelona? The battle of the data
The thread drifts into a comparison with Madrid. Manzanares posts municipal census charts: "Madrid is the city with the most 'segarros' and Africans in Spain." According to his figures, Madrid would have 32,000 Segarro (0.86%) and Barcelona 19,353 (1.13%). But Ricardo-Barcelona counters that "illegals don't register" and that in the Raval or Besós the foreign population outnumbers the local one. "Statistics are the justification for politicians' lies," he declares. The debate exposes the gap between official data and street-level perception, a classic in this community.
The political diagnosis
"They voted for a lgtb mayor and before that a pseudolesbian Podemos type. Let them enjoy what they voted for," writes dcisneros. Others attack the independence movement: "The retarded Catalan nationalists and the invaders have turned Barcelona into a dung heap," says Klapaucius. The shadow of political management looms over every reply, with a recurring message: citizens are to blame for not demanding answers.
The thread reaches no consensus, but it leaves an impression: for many forum members, Barcelona is no longer what it used to be. Is it perception or reality? The data convince no one, and the wound remains open.
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