The end of toilet paper: pogre or a hygiene setback?
The debate over the possible disappearance of toilet paper in favour of water-based washing systems, such as Japanese bidets or pressure sprayers, has sparked intense controversy on the forum. Users are discussing whether this trend towards washing with water is a practical advance or a cultural imposition that clashes with Western cleanliness standards.
Key points in the debate
The case for water-based hygiene: Several users argue that pressurised water is significantly more effective than paper, claiming that paper merely smears residue around instead of removing it, leaving bacteria behind.
Criticism of the traditional system: Another part of the forum criticises washing systems as unhygienic, arguing that the design of certain modern toilets could cause unwanted splashing or a build-up of residue on the devices.
Infrastructure concerns: Some users point out that relying on electric or water-pressure systems for personal hygiene could be a drawback in the event of power cuts or failures in the sewerage network.
What forum users say about water versus paper
Position A (Water advocates): They argue that cleaning with a jet of water, as used in Asian countries, is a necessary evolution. They claim that, once you get past the culture shock, the feeling of cleanliness is far superior, and they avoid low-quality paper they consider inefficient.
Position B (Paper and sewerage advocates): They argue that toilet paper, combined with water and soap, remains the gold standard of Western hygiene. They flatly reject systems they consider "backward" or invasive, and remain sceptical about the real effectiveness of water jets in integrated toilets.
Why this thread is getting people talking
The discussion has become polarised between those who see a necessary modernisation of household habits and those who perceive an attempt to change entrenched Western customs. The thread stands out for its personal anecdotes about paper quality and the technical debate over the viability of the new cleaning devices.
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Disclaimer: The opinions expressed in this thread belong solely to the users and do not constitute health advice or statements of fact. Personal hygiene is a matter of individual choice, and professionals should be consulted if there are any doubts about dermatological or health-related issues.
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