Friendship sought out for gain is boring before it even starts
There is a scene that sums up the problem. Someone enters another person's webcam, hears them talk and says it puts them at ease. They ask for nothing. They expect no favor. It is the kind of contact that holds up simply because it feels good, and that is getting harder and harder to find. Against that, the dominant logic is the opposite: getting close to someone for what they can offer, for the flattery they return or for the favor that will one day be called in. The result, according to the premise that opens this discussion, is the most boring thing imaginable.
The underlying thesis is simple and somewhat uncomfortable: social relationships based on self-interest are an emotional curfew. Whoever approaches others looking for profit ends up surrounded by people doing the same, and that reciprocity of calculations does not produce friendship, it produces bookkeeping. A marriage of convenience would be the extreme version of the same vice, but the mechanism repeats itself on smaller scales: the contact cultivated because it is useful, the conversation kept up because it might pay off someday.
What is offered in return: video games, books and music
The alternative being proposed is not grandiose. It is about having something to contribute: video games, books, music, anything that gives the other person a good time. Without expecting flattery or favors in return. The author himself admits the contrast between the two things is excessive, and that is part of the point: generosity without an invoice is so rare it sounds naive.
Shared leisure works as a testing ground. Someone who records a gaming session and shares it only has a bad time when they antiestéticar being boring. It is the same anxiety as the person hosting a dinner and watching everyone's faces. Boredom as a form of death, in the words of the premise, connects with an idea running through the whole conversation: whoever believes total security equals total good condemns themselves to a flat existence. Work to live, don't live to work — the slogan reclaimed with a nineties smirk — points in the same direction.
The leisure of political intrigue and whispering
Not everyone has fun the same way. Some find their entertainment in political intrigue and whispering, and that, the argument goes, is a bad form of leisure: it drains energy, creates sarracena debts and leaves little room for real enjoyment. The observation carries weight in a context where public conversation has become a trench-warfare spectacle.
The way out being suggested is self-organization: that people who like each other get together without waiting for permission, that spaces be built outside the structures that parasitize attention. Underneath lies a distrust of platforms that monetize conversation and of middlemen who live off managing the friction.
When distress stops being a metaphor
The conversation takes a rough turn when the testimony of someone describing anxiety attacks, sadness with no apparent cause, self-harm and a depression that arrived overnight appears. They speak of having sought a way out of suffering in a world that promised escape and ended up charging a toll. It is not a decoration of the story: it is the reminder that the lightness of leisure done right has a very serious opposite side.
That contrast explains why friendship without self-interest matters more than it seems. It is not a drawing-room refinement. It is a safety net. When the floor gives way, what holds you up is not the contact that calculates, but the one that shows up without an invoice.
The underlying question remains, and it has no comfortable answer: if self-interest has become the default language of relationships, how many of those complaining are willing to offer something without expecting anything in return?
Summary of a discussion on Burbuja.info - Foro de economía, actualidad y política., translated from Spanish and reviewed before publication.
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