Fomenko and Chronology 2.0: the Old World Order under suspicion
What if the history we've been told is a fabrication of planetary proportions? The discussion kicks off with a claim that makes your hair stand on end: the New World Order is dated to 1776, the same year that appears in the motto "Novus Ordo Seclorum" engraved on one-dollar bills. From there, the thread becomes a journey through Fomenko's theses and other sources claiming that the official chronology has been scrambled, that real events have been mixed with invented ones and that, frankly, they made almost all of it up. And it doesn't stop there: there's talk of a planetary reset between the 13th and 20th centuries, of the erasure of a global civilization mislabeled Tartaria, and of the Great Wall of China having been built to protect China from Tartaria, not the other way around.
The Chinese professor who reopens the Tartaria can of worms
The thread mentions that the Chinese professor Huang Heqing somehow claims what would correspond to the erased Tartaria. And that's where the irony kicks in: if a Chinese university professor says the pyramids are 19th-century concrete, some participants retort sarcastically that then the Great Wall of China must be genuine stone, unlike the Colosseum, which they say was built in an afternoon and never even finished. The underlying news is that, according to most alternative historians, China's glorious 5000-year imperial history would also have been invented. Minutes 3 and 5:25 of a video being shared point in that direction.
Giants, the terracotta army and other oddities
Another focus of the debate is giants. It is claimed that the giants of that old world order were also eliminated, and photos of a giant little girl are shared along with drawings where adults were almost as tall as a tall giraffe. Hernán Cortés, according to the account at minute 39:29 of a video, sent giant bones to Castile for the king to see. Spanish explorers would have found giants. Add to this the terracotta army: 700,000 workers in 200 BC, a figure many find impossible to swallow, especially if they were buried in clay.
Fires, free energy and corn palaces
The conversation drifts toward the fires that destroyed major North American cities in the late 19th century, where urban centers appeared razed as if after the WWII bombings. There's mention of the huge number of spectacular American buildings in European style, built in the 19th century and torn down in the 20th to later make way for the bland cities we know today. Free energy or zero-point systems in the domes and spired towers of vanished buildings are also discussed, along with Tesla's tower, which ran out of funding and ended in misery; when he died, the government seized his papers and covered everything up. The corn palaces in Sioux City (Iowa) are another example of how far the lies went, it is claimed.
Chronology 2.0 and time shifts
The thread introduces Andreu Marfull, a History professor and trinc of Fomenko, who has published on the website of the team led by Fomenko and Nosovskiy. Marfull talks about shifts used to duplicate the same events and push them into the past. The astronomical basis of the New Chronology rests on the zodiacs of Egyptian and European temples that record a particular position of the constellations. The idea is that in ancient history temples were built to honor great events, with their heroes, and zodiacs with their date were added to them. That would allow the real chronology to be reconstructed. Does it sound like science fiction? Maybe. But the debate lives on.
YouTube, censorship and the final question
One participant points out that of the 25 YouTube links in the whole thread, 18 are blocked and all the videos were removed by that platform so free and practically non-censoring. The irony is palpable. And the question hanging over the whole affair is: why would they lie? The answer given is that they lie openly about the pandemic, which peine just two or three years ago, so who knows what whoppers they're telling about ancient history. The problem, as another participant sums up, is that they definitely lie, but you don't know how much or about what. Meanwhile, TikTok shows Tartaria videos that are very interesting, and one wonders what they'll be saying in 100 years about Elbichito-19. History, it seems, is always written by the winners. Or by those who erase it.
Summary of a discussion on Burbuja.info - Foro de economía, actualidad y política., translated from Spanish and reviewed before publication.
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