Abascal Blames Russia-Backed Climate Lobbies; Vox Base Divides
Vox leader Santiago Abascal attributes Spain's energy crisis to Russian-funded climate lobbies, sparking a sharp split among his supporters.
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Abascal Blames Russia for Climate Crisis as Vox Base Turns Away
Vox leader Santiago Abascal published a message attributing the "ruin of our families" to three culprits: "caveman leftists, climate lobbies funded by Russia, and rulers preventing us from exploring our resources." Read in the context of the Ukraine war, this placed Moscow at the center of a global climate conspiracy, according to some analysts. The reaction in political forums was immediate, ranging from confusion to accusations of betraying Vox's core principles.
The blunt message ignited a portion of the electorate that had previously seen Abascal as an ally against NATO and green agendas. "This guy is stupid," one summarized. "The only statesman Spain has," another replied. The division was total.
The Tweet Thesis: Russia Behind Climate Lobby
Abascal offered no proof, but the accusation was heavy enough to cause an earthquake. "Climate lobbies funded by Russia" clashes with evidence that Moscow has been the main beneficiary of gas sold to Europe. "Russia doesn't want Europe self-sufficient," argued one participant, "but it also doesn't want us to stop buying its gas."
The paradox is evident: if Russia funds environmental groups to halt fracking and nuclear power, why sell gas to Germany at bargain prices? Another respondent noted that "Nord Stream 2 goes directly from Russia to Germany without interference," suggesting Anglo actors sabotaged it. The discussion shifted to pipeline geopolitics, with cross-accusations of serving foreign interests.
Fracking, Nuclear, and Gas That Never Arrived
A recurring point was the confusion between fracking and natural gas. "Fracking isn't the same as gas," one clarified, noting Spain lacks sufficient reserves for self-sufficiency. Abascal's call to "explore our resources" meets geological reality: Spanish gas extraction is marginal. The nuclear alternative, mentioned by some, was absent from the tweet.
Debate turned to European energy dependence. "Eurasia, the alliance between Europe and Russia, would be self-sufficient," one claimed, "marginalizing the USA." This idea, once heretical to Atlanticists, found echoes among those viewing the Ukraine war as a conflict irrelevant to Spanish interests. "Spain gains nothing," another stated, "and we shouldn't ruin our children's future so Anglos can amass influence."
Base Reaction: From "Statesman" to "Traitor"
The conversation's evolution was revealing. Early messages oscillated between unconditional support ("the only statesman") and frontal rejection ("complete idiot"). As exchanges continued, tones hardened. "Abascal has become an idiot," wrote one. "He is a traitor and hypocrite," added another. The most repeated accusation was adopting the NATO and Anglo-media narrative.
"This guy reads the forum," commented one user, "those exact words were said here today." The coincidence between the tweet and circulating arguments fueled suspicion that Abascal reacted to external pressures. "It's proven greens were NATO's Trojan horse, not the USSR's," insisted a veteran, referencing Cold War infiltration theories.
Context: A War No One Wanted to Debate
Abascal's tweet arrived amid peak geopolitical tension, with the Ukraine war escalating and Europe debating how to cut Russian gas dependence. Mentioning "Russian-funded climate lobbies" put Vox in an awkward spot: criticizing green agendas while seemingly aligning with narratives blaming Moscow for the energy crisis. "Russia is blamed for the Catalonia referendum, yet perpetrators are sheltered by our allies," one mocked, highlighting double standards.
Discussion moved to media roles. "Russian series, films, news, and social networks force elbichito, climate change, and Agenda 2030 down our throats," another joked, underscoring the absurdity of attributing all pogre agendas to Moscow. The majority concluded Abascal miscalculated: blaming Russia alienated voters who saw Pilingui as an ally against globalism.
An uncomfortable question remains: if Russia funds climate lobbies, why does it sell gas to Europe, and why do renewable-promoting countries depend most on Russian gas? No one in the conversation could answer without resorting to conspiracy theories. Neither did Abascal.
Vox leader Santiago Abascal published a message attributing the "ruin of our families" to three culprits: "caveman leftists, climate lobbies funded by Russia, and rulers preventing us from exploring our resources." Read in the context of the Ukraine war, this placed Moscow at the center of a global climate conspiracy, according to some analysts. The reaction in political forums was immediate, ranging from confusion to accusations of betraying Vox's core principles.
The blunt message ignited a portion of the electorate that had previously seen Abascal as an ally against NATO and green agendas. "This guy is stupid," one summarized. "The only statesman Spain has," another replied. The division was total.
The Tweet Thesis: Russia Behind Climate Lobby
Abascal offered no proof, but the accusation was heavy enough to cause an earthquake. "Climate lobbies funded by Russia" clashes with evidence that Moscow has been the main beneficiary of gas sold to Europe. "Russia doesn't want Europe self-sufficient," argued one participant, "but it also doesn't want us to stop buying its gas."
The paradox is evident: if Russia funds environmental groups to halt fracking and nuclear power, why sell gas to Germany at bargain prices? Another respondent noted that "Nord Stream 2 goes directly from Russia to Germany without interference," suggesting Anglo actors sabotaged it. The discussion shifted to pipeline geopolitics, with cross-accusations of serving foreign interests.
Fracking, Nuclear, and Gas That Never Arrived
A recurring point was the confusion between fracking and natural gas. "Fracking isn't the same as gas," one clarified, noting Spain lacks sufficient reserves for self-sufficiency. Abascal's call to "explore our resources" meets geological reality: Spanish gas extraction is marginal. The nuclear alternative, mentioned by some, was absent from the tweet.
Debate turned to European energy dependence. "Eurasia, the alliance between Europe and Russia, would be self-sufficient," one claimed, "marginalizing the USA." This idea, once heretical to Atlanticists, found echoes among those viewing the Ukraine war as a conflict irrelevant to Spanish interests. "Spain gains nothing," another stated, "and we shouldn't ruin our children's future so Anglos can amass influence."
Base Reaction: From "Statesman" to "Traitor"
The conversation's evolution was revealing. Early messages oscillated between unconditional support ("the only statesman") and frontal rejection ("complete idiot"). As exchanges continued, tones hardened. "Abascal has become an idiot," wrote one. "He is a traitor and hypocrite," added another. The most repeated accusation was adopting the NATO and Anglo-media narrative.
"This guy reads the forum," commented one user, "those exact words were said here today." The coincidence between the tweet and circulating arguments fueled suspicion that Abascal reacted to external pressures. "It's proven greens were NATO's Trojan horse, not the USSR's," insisted a veteran, referencing Cold War infiltration theories.
Context: A War No One Wanted to Debate
Abascal's tweet arrived amid peak geopolitical tension, with the Ukraine war escalating and Europe debating how to cut Russian gas dependence. Mentioning "Russian-funded climate lobbies" put Vox in an awkward spot: criticizing green agendas while seemingly aligning with narratives blaming Moscow for the energy crisis. "Russia is blamed for the Catalonia referendum, yet perpetrators are sheltered by our allies," one mocked, highlighting double standards.
Discussion moved to media roles. "Russian series, films, news, and social networks force elbichito, climate change, and Agenda 2030 down our throats," another joked, underscoring the absurdity of attributing all pogre agendas to Moscow. The majority concluded Abascal miscalculated: blaming Russia alienated voters who saw Pilingui as an ally against globalism.
An uncomfortable question remains: if Russia funds climate lobbies, why does it sell gas to Europe, and why do renewable-promoting countries depend most on Russian gas? No one in the conversation could answer without resorting to conspiracy theories. Neither did Abascal.
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