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No tendría porque pasar, pero podría pasar que se volviese mas contagioso y al mismo tiempo subiese la letalidad.
Puede pasar cualquier cosa. Nadie puede anticipar como va a mutar el bichito. Por eso, decir lo que ha dicho ese tipo sobre la mutación es un poco como hablar del bichito con un palillo y un carajillo...
 

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Yo lo que he leído es que no hay la menor prueba de que tenga algo que ver cuando se comparan grupos homogéneos de banderilleados y no banderilleados. Y es que obviamente, de la gripe se suelen vacunar los que peor salud tienen y más mayores son.
Ya..pero desde hace dos años se ha decidido dar una banderilla de crioe diferente (ojo, con dosis diferentes) a los pacientes mayores de 65 años..oséa..edad de jubilación.
 

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Hombre ... el gobernador de Texas es el que dijo que a lo mejor los viejos tenían que morir para que vivieran los jóvenes ..... jojojojo
No, no dijo en ningun momento nada de los jovenes. Dijo para salvar los bancos de los alubios. Espero con ansias que el sea el primero en palmar.
 

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A los niños y a las embarazadas también se les banderilla, y los grupos de riesgo para la banderilla de la gripe son grupos de riesgo para cualquier cosa. El que se muere por una gripe, es porque tiene mala salud y cualquier cosa puede matarlo.

¿Quién está en las residencias, los viejos sanos o los que ya no se pueden valer por sí mismos?

Correlación no implica causalidad, y en este caso las lagunas de causalidad son enormes, no digo que la banderilla no pudiera ser perjudicial, pero tendrían que demostrar el cómo, pero no puede ser la causa, hay demasiados países donde no han visto una banderilla de la gripe en la vida, y otros donse se banderilla que han tenido muy pocos casos.
Los mayores de 65 reciben otro tipo de banderilla de la gripe...
 

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LOS EVENTOS SUPERCONTAGIADORES SERÍAN 7: BODAS, FUNERALES, ACTIVIDADES DE CULTO RELIGIOSOS, BARES, GIMNASIOS, REUNIONES EN CASA Y OTROS EVENTOS PEQUEÑOS




¿Y las plantas de procesados de carne, centro de refugiados o cruceros?
 

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ESCENARIO "APOCALÍPTICO" EN HOUSTON

Houston’s el bichito-19 outbreak is accelerating at an exponential pace that will swamp its medical infrastructure.

Houston Facing ‘Apocalyptic’ July 4 Holiday as bichito Surges

Houston’s el bichito-19 outbreak is accelerating at an exponential pace that will swamp the fourth-largest U.S. city’s medical infrastructure by the Independence Day holiday, less than two weeks away, a leading disease specialist warned. Even as Houston-area intensive-care wards approach full capacity, the worst is yet to come because of “the huge amount of transmission going on in our community,”

Current trends in Harris County, which includes Houston, indicate the caseload will triple or quadruple by mid-July, Hotez said, citing modeling by the Children’s Hospital of Philadelphia’s PolicyLab.

Such a scenario would be “apocalyptic,” he said. “We can’t go there.”



The trajectory of new cases is “going vertical,” Hotez said. “That’s what epidemic diseases classically do.”


Houston Facing ‘Apocalyptic’ July 4 Holiday as bichito Surges
 

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¿Y las plantas de procesados de carne, centro de refugiados o cruceros?
Resumo, SITOS donde NO se llevan mascaras.

En las plantas de procesados , centros de refugiados etc.. las ves cuando pasan los de las camaras, luego se las quitan porque son "molestas".
 

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ESCENARIO "APOCALÍPTICO" EN HOUSTON

Houston’s el bichito-19 outbreak is accelerating at an exponential pace that will swamp its medical infrastructure.

Houston Facing ‘Apocalyptic’ July 4 Holiday as bichito Surges

Houston’s el bichito-19 outbreak is accelerating at an exponential pace that will swamp the fourth-largest U.S. city’s medical infrastructure by the Independence Day holiday, less than two weeks away, a leading disease specialist warned. Even as Houston-area intensive-care wards approach full capacity, the worst is yet to come because of “the huge amount of transmission going on in our community,”

Current trends in Harris County, which includes Houston, indicate the caseload will triple or quadruple by mid-July, Hotez said, citing modeling by the Children’s Hospital of Philadelphia’s PolicyLab.

Such a scenario would be “apocalyptic,” he said. “We can’t go there.”



The trajectory of new cases is “going vertical,” Hotez said. “That’s what epidemic diseases classically do.”


Houston Facing ‘Apocalyptic’ July 4 Holiday as bichito Surges
Me da que para Houston ya es demasiado tarde, esta en MADMAX, New York reloaded
 

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Y yo me pregunto, si las fronteras con países terceros salvo Europa, están cerradas, ¿por qué han entrado casos importados de Bolivia en Murcia, importados de Estados Unidos en Menorca, o de Brasil en Galicia? ¿Por dónde se les están colando? :mad :oops
No están cerradas
 

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Nueva actualización en el hilo del floro usano:

I have no idea what is going on in China, no matter what they say.


As for Europe, I would say we got like a month left, more like 3 weeks. It is fairly difficult to predict now how the pandemic will evolve in Europe.


When I predicted that a resurgence of the first wave, or the second wave, to start between mid to end of June, I did for the whole world. I didn't knew where it will happen first, because unlike January, when the world was 100% open to the bichito, this time, we are coming after a 2 month long lock-down, after many people realized this is not a joke, and they reduced drastically their exposure to others, they wear masks (which are what we should all do), and such, this time around it will take LONGER before we will feel (not see in numbers) the impact.


Europe was hard hit, and unlike the U.S. there are many more people who wear masks, even if not enough. Many European countries are still keeping hard measures in place, others are in early stages of reopening.


All these reasons are making difficult to predict when Europe will see the second wave (in the Western part of Europe) or the resurgence of the first wave (Central and Eastern Europe).


What is certain is that Europe, just like the U.S., will face multiple epicenters this time. Except New-York, the U.S. was hardly affected in the first time. Basically, the U.S. had one single epicenter. Now, the U.S. have at least 4 of them.


But the U.S. is on the path to double this number, and it will do it quite soon. By mid-July, the U.S. will have around 8 areas that will be similar to Arizona or Texas.


Europe had basically 2 epicenters : Lombardy and Madrid.Next wave (or resurgence) will have more then that, like A LOT many more, and this is because the bichito is kinda equally spread across Europe, the time for an epicenter to form will take longer then the U.S., but Europe will have at least 15 epicenters in August.


I think Europe have slightly more time then the U.S. (which was about 4 to 6 weeks after reopening), probably around 8-10 weeks, starting from May 15th, which means that by mid-July, Europe will see multiple epicenters forming.


What I can say with high certainty, is that Madrid and Lombardy will not be among these epicenters in Europe.



The bad news is that once the cold season starts in Europe, the number of epicenters will be so high (the U.S. will also have a lot more epicenters) that almost every area will have or be next to an epicenter.



We should all enjoy this "pause" and use it to prep for winter.


I hope the bichito will mutate into a weaker strain, but the current mutations are taking place among the young and healthy, not old and sick, and the bichito primary function (to multiply) is drastically affected by the stronger immune system of the young, hence, the current mutations will tend to make the bichito BETTER at fighting the stronger immune systems.

We are in an intermediate phase now, many asymptomatic cases, lower ratio of hospitalizations / cases, but that it is because the bichito is in the early stages of mutating. Give it one more month, and the bichito will fully mutate.

It's what a bichito does, before running out of hosts : become BETTER at multiplying, which will lead to asymptomatic cases disappear by the end of year, simply because being better at multiplying means being better at destroying the cells the bichito uses to multiply, which means that the hosts will present symptoms...which means we will need more hospital beds and ICU beds.
Perdón, vengo a interrumpir el fin del mundo. No, los bichito no mutan a peor por lo general, es más, lo que la medicina moderna sabe es que mutan para ser más contagiosos y menos dañinos, lo que optimiza su propagación.