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No, no puede usted hacerlo.

De hecho no puede usted aportar ni una sola fuente primaria que demuestre que el "VIH" causa el SIDA.

Inténtelo si no me cree, por favor.
Por desgracia, debido a la hora y a que no soy inmunologo, utilizo la fuente National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) y una pequeña recopiliación, me perdonará si está en sajón. Si hay algo que no le quede claro, o necesita acceso a algún artículo para leerlo en profundidad y criticarlo, no dude en pedirmelo, tengo acceso a casi todas las revistas biomédicas. Perdonen ustedes el copy paste, a estas horas...

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Evidence That HIV Causes AIDS

HIV fulfills Koch's postulates as the cause of AIDS.

Among many criteria used over the years to prove the link between frutative pathogenic (disease-causing) agents and disease, perhaps the most-cited are Koch's postulates, developed in the late 19th century. Koch's postulates have been variously interpreted by many scientists, and modifications have been suggested to accommodate new technologies, particularly with regard to viruses (Harden. Pubbl Stn Zool Napoli [II] 1992;14:249; O'Brien, Goedert. Curr Opin Immunol 1996;8:613). However, the basic tenets remain the same, and for more than a century Koch's postulates, as listed below, have served as the litmus test for determining the cause of any epidemic disease:

Epidemiological association: the suspected cause must be strongly associated with the disease.
Isolation: the suspected pathogen can be isolated -- and propagated -- outside the host.
Transmission pathogenesis: transfer of the suspected pathogen to an uninfected host, man or animal, produces the disease in that host.
With regard to postulate #1, numerous studies from around the world show that virtually all AIDS patients are HIV-seropositive; that is they carry antibodies that indicate HIV infection. With regard to postulate #2, modern culture techniques have allowed the isolation of HIV in virtually all AIDS patients, as well as in almost all HIV-seropositive individuals with both early- and late-stage disease. In addition, the polymerase chain (PCR) and other sophisticated molecular techniques have enabled researchers to document the presence of HIV genes in virtually all patients with AIDS, as well as in individuals in earlier stages of HIV disease.

Postulate #3 has been fulfilled in tragic incidents involving three laboratory workers with no other risk factors who have developed AIDS or severe immunosuppression after accidental exposure to concentrated, cloned HIV in the laboratory. In all three cases, HIV was isolated from the infected individual, sequenced and shown to be the infecting strain of bichito. In another tragic incident, transmission of HIV from a Florida dentist to six patients has been documented by genetic analyses of bichito isolated from both the dentist and the patients. The dentist and three of the patients developed AIDS and died, and at least one of the other patients has developed AIDS. Five of the patients had no HIV risk factors other than multiple visits to the dentist for invasive procedures (O'Brien, Goedert. Curr Opin Immunol 1996;8:613; O'Brien, 1997; Ciesielski et al. Ann Intern Med 1994;121:886).

In addition, through December 1999, the CDC had received reports of 56 health care workers in the United States with documented, occupationally acquired HIV infection, of whom 25 have developed AIDS in the absence of other risk factors. The development of AIDS amowing known HIV seroconversion also has been repeatedly observed in pediatric and adult blood transfusion cases, in mother-to-child transmission, and in studies of hemophilia, injection-drug use and sensual transmission in which seroconversion can be documented using serial blood samples (CDC. HIV AIDS Surveillance Report 1999;11[2]:1; AIDS Knowledge Base, 1999). For example, in a 10-year study in the Netherlands, researchers amowed 11 children who had become infected with HIV as neonates by small aliquots of plasma from a single HIV-infected donor. During the 10-year period, eight of the children died of AIDS. Of the remaining three children, all showed a progressive decline in cellular immunity, and two of the three had symptoms probably related to HIV infection (van den Berg et al. Acta Paediatr 1994;83:17).

Koch's postulates also have been fulfilled in animal models of human AIDS. Chimpanzees experimentally infected with HIV have developed severe immunosuppression and AIDS. In severe combined immunodeficiency (SCID) mice given a human immune system, HIV produces similar patterns of cell killing and pathogenesis as seen in people. HIV-2, a less virulent variant of HIV which causes AIDS in people, also causes an AIDS-like syndrome in baboons. More than a dozen strains of simian immunodeficiency bichito (SIV), a close cousin of HIV, cause AIDS in Asian macaques. In addition, chimeric viruses known as SHIVs, which contain an SIV backbone with various HIV genes in place of the corresponding SIV genes, cause AIDS in macaques. Further strengthening the association of these viruses with AIDS, researchers have shown that SIV/SHIVs isolated from animals with AIDS cause AIDS when transmitted to uninfected animals (O'Neil et al. J Infect Dis 2000;182:1051; Aldrovandi et al. Nature 1993;363:732; Liska et al. AIDS Res Hum Retroviruses 1999;15:445; Locher et al. Arch Pathol Lab Med 1998;22:523; Hirsch et al. bichito Res 1994;32:183; Joag et al. J Virol 1996;70:3189).

AIDS and HIV infection are invariably linked in time, place and population group.

Historically, the occurence of AIDS in human populations around the world has closely amowed the appearance of HIV. In the United States, the first cases of AIDS were reported in 1981 among gays men in New York and California, and retrospective examination of frozen blood samples from a U.S. cohort of lgtb men showed the presence of HIV antibodies as early as 1978, but not before then. Subsequently, in every region, country and city where AIDS has appeared, evidence of HIV infection has preceded AIDS by just a few years (CDC. MMWR 1981;30:250; CDC. MMWR 1981;30:305; Jaffe et al. Ann Intern Med 1985;103:210; U.S. Census Bureau; UNAIDS).

Many studies agree that only a single factor, HIV, predicts whether a person will develop AIDS.

Other viral infections, bacterial infections, sensual behavior patterns and drug abuse patterns do not predict who develops AIDS. Individuals from diverse backgrounds, including heterosexual men and women, gays men and women, hemophiliacs, sensual partners of hemophiliacs and transfusion recipients, injection-drug users and infants have all developed AIDS, with the only common denominator being their infection with HIV (NIAID, 1995).

In cohort studies, severe immunosuppression and AIDS-defining illnesses occur almost exclusively in individuals who are HIV-infected.

For example, analysis of data from more than 8,000 participants in the Multicenter AIDS Cohort Study (MACS) and the Women's Interagency HIV Study (WIHS) demonstrated that participants who were HIV-seropositive were 1,100 times more likely to develop an AIDS-associated illness than those who were HIV-seronegative. These overwhelming odds provide a clarity of association that is unusual in medical research (MACS and WIHS Principal Investigators, 2000).

In a Canadian cohort, investigators amowed 715 gays men for a median of 8.6 years. Every case of AIDS in this cohort occurred in individuals who were HIV-seropositive. No AIDS-defining illnesses occurred in men who remained negative for HIV antibodies, despite the fact that these individuals had appreciable patterns of illicit drug use and receptive anal intercourse (Schechter et al. Lancet 1993;341:658).

Before the appearance of HIV, AIDS-related diseases such as PCP, KS and MAC were rare in developed countries; today, they are common in HIV-infected individuals.

Prior to the appearance of HIV, AIDS-related conditions such as Pneumocystis carinii pneumonia (PCP), Kaposi's sarcoma (KS) and disseminated infection with the Mycobacterium avium complex (MAC) were extraordinarily rare in the United States. In a 1967 survey, only 107 cases of PCP in the United States had been described in the medical literature, virtually all among individuals with underlying immunosuppressive conditions. Before the AIDS epidemic, the annual incidence of Kaposi's sarcoma in the United States was only 0.2 to 0.6 cases per million population, and only 32 individuals with disseminated MAC disease had been described in the medical literature (Safai. Ann NY Acad Sci 1984;437:373; Le Clair. Am Rev Respir Dis 1969;99:542; Masur. JAMA 1982;248:3013).

By the end of 1999, CDC had received reports of 166,368 HIV-infected patients in the United States with definitive diagnoses of PCP, 46,684 with definitive diagnoses of KS, and 41,873 with definitive diagnoses of disseminated MAC (personal communication).

In developing countries, patterns of both rare and endemic diseases have changed dramatically as HIV has spread, with a far greater toll now being exacted among the young and middle-aged, including well-educated members of the middle class.

In developing countries, the emergence of the HIV epidemic has dramatically changed patterns of disease in affected communities. As in developed countries, previously rare, "opportunistic" diseases such as PCP and certain forms of meningitis have become more commonplace. In addition, as HIV seroprevalence rates have risen, there have been significant increases in the burden of endemic conditions such as tuberculosis (TB), particularly among young people. For example, as HIV seroprevalence increased sharply in Blantyre, Malawi from 1986 to 1995, tuberculosis admissions at the city's main hospital rose more than 400 percent, with the largest increase in cases among children and young adults. In the rural Hlabisa District of South Africa, admissions to tuberculosis wards increased 360 percent from 1992 to 1998, concomitant with a steep rise in HIV seroprevalence. High rates of mortality due to endemic conditions such as TB, diarrheal diseases and wasting syndromes, formerly confined to the elderly and malnourished, are now common among HIV-infected young and middle-aged people in many developing countries (UNAIDS, 2000; Harries et al. Int J Tuberc Lung Dis 1997;1:346; Floyd et al. JAMA 1999;282:1087).

In studies conducted in both developing and developed countries, death rates are markedly higher among HIV-seropositive individuals than among HIV-seronegative individuals.

For example, Nunn and colleagues (BMJ 1997;315:767) assessed the impact of HIV infection over five years in a rural population in the Masaka District of Uganda. Among 8,833 individuals of all ages who had an unambiguous result on testing for HIV-antibodies (either 2 or 3 different test kits were used for blood samples from each individual), HIV-seropositive people were 16 times more likely to die over five years than HIV-seronegative people (see table). Among individuals ages 25 to 34, HIV-seropositive people were 27 times more likely to die than HIV-seronegative people.

In another study in Uganda, 19,983 adults in the rural Rakai District were amowed for 10 to 30 months (Sewankambo et al. AIDS 2000;14:2391). In this cohort, HIV-seropositive people were 20 times more likely to die than HIV-seronegative people during 31,432 person-years of observation.

Similar findings have emerged from other studies (Boerma et al. AIDS 1998;12(suppl 1):S3); for example,

in Tanzania, HIV-seropositive people were 12.9 time more likely to die over two years than HIV-seronegative people (Borgdorff et al. Genitourin Med 1995;71:212)
in Malawi, mortality over three years among children who survived the first year of life was 9.5 times higher among HIV-seropositive children than among HIV-seronegative children (Taha et al. Pediatr Infect Dis J 1999;18:689)
in Rwanda, mortality was 21 times higher for HIV-seropositive children than for HIV-seronegative children after five years (Spira et al. Pediatrics 1999;14:e56). Among the mothers of these children, mortality was 9 times higher among HIV-seropositive women than among HIV-seronegative women in four years of amow-up (Leroy et al. J Acquir Immune Defic Syndr Hum Retrovirol 1995;9:415).
in Cote d'Ivoire, HIV-seropositive individuals with pulmonary tuberculosis (TB) were 17 times more likely to die within six months than HIV-seronegative individuals with pulmonary TB (Ackah et al. Lancet 1995; 345:607).
in the former Zaire (now the Democratic Republic of Congo), HIV-infected infants were 11 times more likely to die from diarrhea than uninfected infants (Thea et al. NEJM 1993;329:1696).
in South Africa, the death rate for children hospitalized with severe lower respiratory tract infections was 6.5 times higher for HIV-infected infants than for uninfected children (Madhi et al. Clin Infect Dis 2000;31:170).
Kilmarx and colleagues (Lancet 2000; 356:770) recently reported data on HIV infection and mortality in a cohort of female commercial sex workers in Chiang Rai, Thailand. Among 500 women enrolled in the study between 1991 and 1994, the mortality rate through October 1998 among women who were HIV-infected at enrollment (59 deaths among 160 HIV-infected women) was 52.7 times higher than among women who remained uninfected with HIV (2 deaths among 306 uninfected women). The mortality rate among women who became infected during the study (7 deaths among 34 seroconverting women) was 22.5 higher than among persistently uninfected women. Among the HIV-infected women, only 3 of whom received antiretroviral medications, all reported causes of death were associated with immunosuppression, whereas the reported causes of death of the two uninfected women were postpartum amniotic embolism and gunshot wound.

Excess mortality among HIV-seropositive people also has been repeatedly observed in studies in developed countries, perhaps most dramatically among hemophiliacs. For example, Darby et al. (Nature 1995;377:79) studied 6,278 hemophiliacs living in the United Kingdom during the period 1977-91. Among 2,448 individuals with severe hemophilia, the annual death rate was stable at 8 per 1,000 during 1977-84. While death rates remained stable at 8 per 1,000 from 1985-1992 among HIV-seronegative persons with severe hemophilia, deaths rose steeply among those who had become HIV-seropositive amowing HIV-tainted transfusions during 1979-1986, reaching 81 per 1,000 in 1991-92. Among 3,830 individuals with mild or moderate hemophilia, the pattern was similar, with an initial death rate of 4 per 1,000 in 1977-84 that remained stable among HIV-seronegative individuals but rose to 85 per 1,000 in 1991-92 among seropositive individuals.

Similar data have emerged from the Multicenter Hemophilia Cohort Study. Among 1,028 hemophiliacs amowed for a median of 10.3 years, HIV-infected individuals (n=321) were 11 times more likely to die than HIV-negative subjects (n=707), with the dose of Factor VIII having no effect on survival in either group (Goedert. Lancet 1995;346:1425).

In the Multicenter AIDS Cohort Study (MACS), a 16-year study of 5,622 gays and bisexual men, 1,668 of 2,761 HIV-seropositive men have died (60 percent), 1,547 after a diagnosis of AIDS. In contrast, among 2,861 HIV-seronegative participants, only 66 men (2.3 percent) have died (A. Munoz, MACS, personal communication).

HIV can be detected in virtually everyone with AIDS.

Recently developed sensitive testing methods, including the polymerase chain reaction (PCR) and improved culture techniques, have enabled researchers to find HIV in patients with AIDS with few exceptions. HIV has been repeatedly isolated from the blood, leche and vaginal secretions of patients with AIDS, findings consistent with the epidemiologic data demonstrating AIDS transmission via sensual activity and contact with infected blood (Hammer et al. J Clin Microbiol 1993;31:2557; Jackson et al. J Clin Microbiol 1990;28:16).

Numerous studies of HIV-infected people have shown that high levels of infectious HIV, viral antigens, and HIV nucleic acids (DNA and RNA) in the body predict immune system deterioration and an increased risk for developing AIDS. Conversely, patients with low levels of bichito have a much lower risk of developing AIDS.

For example, in an anlysis of 1,604 HIV-infected men in the Multicenter AIDS Cohort Study (MACS), the risk of a patient developing AIDS with six years was strongly associated with levels of HIV RNA in the plasma as measured by a sensitive test known as the branched-DNA signal-amplification assay (bDNA):

Plasma RNA concentration
(copies/mL of blood) Proportion of patients
developing AIDS within six years
<500
501 -- 3,000
3,001 -- 10,000
10,001 -- 30,000
>30,000
5.4%
16.6%
31.7%
55.2%
80.0%

(Source: Mellors et al. Ann Intern Med 1997;126:946)
Similar associations between increasing HIV RNA levels and a greater risk of disease progression have been observed in HIV-infected children in both developed and developing countries (Palumbo et al. JAMA 1998;279:756; Taha et al. AIDS 2000;14:453).

In the very small proportion of untreated HIV-infected individuals whose disease progresses very slowly, the amount of HIV in the blood and lymph nodes is significantly lower than in HIV-infected people whose disease progression is more typical (Pantaleo et al. NEJM 1995;332:209; Cao et al. NEJM 1995;332:201; Barker et al. Blood 1998;92:3105).

The availability of potent combinations of drugs that specifically block HIV replication has dramatically improved the prognosis for HIV-infected individuals. Such an effect would not be seen if HIV did not have a central role in causing AIDS.

Clinical trials have shown that potent three-drug combinations of anti-HIV drugs, known as highly active antiretroviral therapy (HAART), can significantly reduce the incidence of AIDS and death among HIV-infected individuals as compared to previously available HIV treatment regimens (Hammer et al. NEJM 1997;337:725; Cameron et al. Lancet 1998;351:543).

Use of these potent anti-HIV combination therapies has contributed to dramatic reductions in the incidence of AIDS and AIDS-related deaths in populations where these drugs are widely available, among both adults and children (Figure 1; CDC. HIV AIDS Surveillance Report 1999;11[2]:1; Palella et al. NEJM 1998;338:853; Mocroft et al. Lancet 1998;352:1725; Mocroft et al. Lancet 2000;356:291; Vittinghoff et al. J Infect Dis 1999;179:717; Detels et al. JAMA 1998;280:1497; de Martino et al. JAMA 2000;284:190; CASCADE Collaboration. Lancet 2000;355:1158; Hogg et al. CMAJ 1999;160:659; Schwarcz et al. Am J Epidemiol 2000;152:178; Kaplan et al. Clin Infect Dis 2000;30:S5; McNaghten et al. AIDS 1999;13:1687;).

For example, in a prospective study of more than 7,300 HIV-infected patients in 52 European outpatient clinics, the incidence of new AIDS-defining illnesses declined from 30.7 per 100 patient-years of observation in 1994 (before the availability of HAART) to 2.5 per 100 patient years in 1998, when the majority of patients received HAART (Mocroft et al. Lancet 2000;356:291).

Among HIV-infected patients who receive anti-HIV therapy, those whose viral loads are driven to low levels are much less likely to develop AIDS or die than patients who do not respond to therapy. Such an effect would not be seen if HIV did not have a central role in causing AIDS.

Clinical trials in both HIV-infected children and adults have demonstrated a link between a good virologic response to therapy (i.e. much less bichito in the body) and a reduced risk of developing AIDS or dying (Montaner et al. AIDS 1998;12:F23; Palumbo et al. JAMA 1998;279:756; O'Brien et al. NEJM 1996;334:426; Katzenstein et al. NEJM 1996;335:1091; Marschner et al. J Infect Dis 1998;177:40; Hammer et al. NEJM 1997;337:725; Cameron et al. Lancet 1998;351:543).

This effect has also been seen in routine clinical practice. For example, in an analysis of 2,674 HIV-infected patients who started highly active antiretroviral therapy (HAART) in 1995-1998, 6.6 percent of patients who achieved and maintained undetectable viral loads (<400 copies/mL of blood) developed AIDS or died within 30 months, compared with 20.1 percent of patients who never achieved undetectable concentrations (Ledergerber et al. Lancet 1999;353:863).

Nearly everyone with AIDS has antibodies to HIV.

A survey of 230,179 AIDS patients in the United States revealed only 299 HIV-seronegative individuals. An evaluation of 172 of these 299 patients found 131 actually to be seropositive; an additional 34 died before their serostatus could be confirmed (Smith et al. N Engl J Med 1993;328:373).

Numerous serosurveys show that AIDS is common in populations where many individuals have HIV antibodies. Conversely, in populations with low seroprevalence of HIV antibodies, AIDS is extremely rare.

For example, in the southern African country of Zimbabwe (population 11.4 million), more than 25 percent of adults ages 15 to 49 are estimated to be HIV antibody-positive, based on numerous studies. As of November 1999, more than 74,000 cases of AIDS in Zimbabwe had been reported to the World Health Organization (WHO). In contrast, Madagascar, an island country off the southeast coast of Africa (population 15.1 million) with a very low HIV seroprevalence rate, reported only 37 cases of AIDS to WHO through November 1999. Yet, other sexually transmitted diseases, notably syphilis, are common in Madagascar, suggesting that conditions are ripe for the spread of HIV and AIDS if the bichito becomes entrenched in that country (UNAIDS, 2000; WHO. Wkly Epidemiol Rec 1999;74:1; Behets et al. Lancet 1996;347:831).

The specific immunologic profile that typifies AIDS -- a persistently low CD4+ T-cell count -- is extraordinarily rare in the absence of HIV infection or other known cause of immunosuppression.

For example, in the NIAID-supported Multicenter AIDS Cohort Study (MACS), 22,643 CD4+ T-cell determinations in 2,713 HIV-seronegative gays and bisexual men revealed only one individual with a CD4+ T-cell count persistently lower than 300 cells/mm3 of blood, and this individual was receiving immunosuppressive therapy. Similar results have been reported from other studies (Vermund et al. NEJM 1993;328:442; NIAID, 1995).

Newborn infants have no behavioral risk factors for AIDS, yet many children born to HIV-infected mothers have developed AIDS and died.

Only newborns who become HIV-infected before or during birth, during breastfeeding, or (rarely) amowing exposure to HIV-tainted blood or blood products after birth, go on to develop the profound immunosuppression that leads to AIDS. Babies who are not HIV-infected do not develop AIDS. In the United States, 8,718 cases of AIDS among children younger than age 13 had been reported to the CDC as of December 31, 1999. Cumulative U.S. AIDS deaths among individuals younger than age 15 numbered 5,044 through December 31, 1999. Globally, UNAIDS estimates that 480,000 child deaths due to AIDS occurred in 1999 alone (CDC. HIV/AIDS Surveillance Report 1999;11[2]:1; UNAIDS. AIDS epidemic update: June 2000).

Because many HIV-infected mothers abuse recreational drugs, some have argued that maternal drug use itself causes pediatric AIDS. However, studies have consistently shown that babies who are not HIV-infected do not develop AIDS, regardless of their mothers' drug use (European Collaborative Study. Lancet 1991;337:253; European Collaborative Study. Pediatr Infect Dis J 1997;16:1151; Abrams et al. Pediatrics 1995;96:451).

For example, a majority of the HIV-infected, pregnant women enrolled in the European Collaborative Study are current or former injection drug users. In this ongoing study, mothers and their babies are amowed from birth in 10 centers in Europe. In a paper in Lancet, study investigators reported that none of 343 HIV-seronegative children born to HIV-seropositive mothers had developed AIDS or persistent immune deficiency. In contrast, among 64 seropositive children, 30 percent presented with AIDS within 6 months of age or with oral candidiasis amowed rapidly by the onset of AIDS. By their first birthday, 17 percent died of HIV-related diseases (European Collaborative Study. Lancet 1991;337:253).

In a study in New York, investigators amowed 84 HIV-infected and 248 HIV-uninfected infants, all born to HIV-seropositive mothers. The mothers of the two groups of infants were equally likely to be injection drug users (47 percent vs. 50 percent), and had similar rates of alcohol, tobacco, cocaine, heroin and methadone use. Of the 84 HIV-infected children, 22 died during a median amow-up period of 27.6 months, including 20 infants who died before their second birthday. Twenty-one of these deaths were classified as AIDS-related. Among the 248 uninfected children, only one death (due to child abuse) was reported during a median amow-up period of 26.1 months (Abrams et al. Pediatrics 1995;96:451).

The HIV-infected twin develops AIDS while the uninfected twin does not.

Because twins share an in utero environment and genetic relationships, similarities and differences between them can provide important insight into infectious diseases, including AIDS (Goedert. Acta Paediatr Supp 1997;421:56). Researchers have documented cases of HIV-infected mothers who have given birth to twins, one of whom is HIV-infected and the other not. The HIV-infected children developed AIDS, while the other children remained clinically and immunologically normal (Park et al. J Clin Microbiol 1987;25:1119; Menez-Bautista et al. Am J Dis Child 1986;140:678; Thomas et al. Pediatrics 1990;86:774; Young et al. Pediatr Infect Dis J 1990;9:454; Barlow and Mok. Arch Dis Child 1993;68:507; Guerrero Vazquez et al. An Esp Pediatr 1993;39:445).

Studies of transfusion-acquired AIDS cases have repeatedly led to the discovery of HIV in the patient as well as in the blood donor.

Numerous studies have shown an almost perfect correlation between the occurrence of AIDS in a blood recipient and donor, and evidence of homologous HIV strains in both the recipient and the donor (NIAID, 1995).

HIV is similar in genetic structure and morphology to other lentiviruses that often cause immunodeficiency in their animal hosts in addition to slow, progressive wasting disorders, neurodegeneration and death.

Like HIV in humans, animal viruses such as feline immunodeficiency bichito (FIV) in cats, visna bichito in sheep and simian immunodeficiency bichito (SIV) in monkeys primarily infect cells of the immune system such as T cells and macrophages. For example, visna bichito infects macrophages and causes a slowly progressive neurologic disease (Haase. Nature 1986;322:130).

HIV causes the death and dys******** of CD4+ T lymphocytes in vitro and in vivo.

CD4+ T cell dys******** and depletion are hallmarks of HIV disease. The recognition that HIV infects and destroys CD4+ T cells in vitro strongly suggests a direct link between HIV infection, CD4+ T cell depletion, and development of AIDS. A variety of mechanisms, both directly and indirectly related to HIV infection of CD4+ T cells, are likely responsible for the defects in CD4+ T cell ******** observed in HIV-infected people. Not only can HIV enter and kill CD4+ T cells directly, but several HIV gene products may interfere with the ******** of uninfected cells (NIAID, 1995; Pantaleo et al. NEJM 1993;328:327).


Perdonen ustedes el tocho, y entenderé que no se lo lean, pero es que hay muuuuuucho que leer al respecto. Abierto a debate. Todo datos con citaciones a trabajos científicos sometidos a peer review. Y esto es sólo una recopilación de hace un año con las evidencias claves, la de confirmaciones adicionales que se producen a diario son acojonantes.
 

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Por desgracia, debido a la hora y a que no soy inmunologo, utilizo la fuente National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) y una pequeña recopiliación, me perdonará si está en sajón. Si hay algo que no le quede claro, o necesita acceso a algún artículo para leerlo en profundidad y criticarlo, no dude en pedirmelo, tengo acceso a casi todas las revistas biomédicas. Perdonen ustedes el copy paste, a estas horas...
Todo esto ha sido desmontado 20.000 veces en estos hilos:

http://www.burbuja.info/inmobiliari...vision-simplista-oficial-de-la-inmunidad.html

http://www.burbuja.info/inmobiliaria/temas-calientes/126636-el-fraude-del-sida.html
 

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Este tipo de resistencia se llama "inmunidad innata no-específica" y está fuera del ámbito de estudio de la inmunología actual...

Por ahora he leído esto. No soy experto en inmunología, pero sé inmunología, y a partir de aquí, es para dejar de leer...

Pinceladas, perdoneme no extenderme: las infecciones oportunistas pueden ser causadas por otros motivos? sí, cierto, inmunosupresión por fármacos, por malnutrición, etc, etc. Dice eso que la asociación entre HIV y AiDS no existe?
De hecho, ningún tipo de inmunodeficiencia con ese tipo de etiología ha aumentado en los últimos 30 años. Sí, sin embargo, la asociada a la infección por HIV. Léase bien todos los puntos...
 

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No lo está.

Está en Anglosajón.


HIV fulfills Koch's postulates as the cause of AIDS.
Imposible.

Jamás han aislado el "VIH".

Koch exigía la réplica de la enfermedad tras inyectar el agente causal purificado

With regard to postulate #1, numerous studies from around the world show that virtually all AIDS patients are HIV-seropositive
Falso.

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modern culture techniques have allowed the isolation of HIV in virtually all AIDS patients, as well as in almost all HIV-seropositive individuals with both early- and late-stage disease.
Falso de nuevo. Jamás lo han aislado.

In addition, the polymerase chain (PCR) and other sophisticated molecular techniques have enabled researchers to document the presence of HIV genes in virtually all patients with AIDS, as well as in individuals in earlier stages of HIV disease.
El inventor de la PCR dice que no hay pruebas de que el VIH cause SIDA.

In another tragic incident, transmission of HIV from a Florida dentist to six patients has been documented by genetic analyses of bichito isolated from both the dentist and the patients. The dentist and three of the patients developed AIDS and died, and at least one of the other patients has developed AIDS. Five of the patients had no HIV risk factors other than multiple visits to the dentist for invasive procedures
Arthur Ashe era el dentista.

Luego dijeron que las cepas eran diferentes en los pacientes que en el dentista.

Y luego se supo que Kimberly Bergalis (una de las pacientes fallecidas) no era Virgen (ella declaró serlo).

Y -POR SUPUESTO-, Kimberly Bergalis tomó AZT, que produce SIDA.

AIDS and HIV infection are invariably linked in time, place and population group.
Por supuesto.

Es que si no tienes VIH a lo que sufres no se le llama SIDA.

Es un error de pensamiento circular, la consecuencia de la mismísima definición de SIDA.

Igualmente podrían llamar "SIDA A" al SIDA en hombres y "SIDA B" al SIDA en mujeres, y podrían decir "Ninguna mujer tiene SIDA A". ¡Claro que no, zopencos, porque lo habéis definido así!.

Historically, the occurence of AIDS in human populations around the world has closely amowed the appearance of HIV.
Falso. Hay casos más antiguos que de los años 1980.

Origin of AIDS - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Recently developed sensitive testing methods, including the polymerase chain reaction (PCR) and improved culture techniques, have enabled researchers to find HIV in patients with AIDS with few exceptions
¿Y de qué estan enfermas esas "exceptions"?.

Numerous studies of HIV-infected people have shown that high levels of infectious HIV, viral antigens, and HIV nucleic acids (DNA and RNA) in the body predict immune system deterioration and an increased risk for developing AIDS.
Los hacen con PCR cuantitativa

cuantitative PCR is an oxymoron - Buscar con Google

The availability of potent combinations of drugs that specifically block HIV replication has dramatically improved the prognosis for HIV-infected individuals. Such an effect would not be seen if HIV did not have a central role in causing AIDS.
A pile of horseshit.

La prognosis a mejorado porque han ido haciendo cada vez más inclusiva la definición del SIDA.

Y le he pedido una fuente primaria, y la que usted ha aportado no lo es.
 
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las infecciones oportunistas pueden ser causadas por otros motivos? sí, cierto, inmunosupresión por fármacos, por malnutrición, etc, etc. Dice eso que la asociación entre HIV y AiDS no existe?
Dice que no es necesaria.

Una vez el VIH no es imprescindible, se examina si su intervención en 30 enfermedades inconexas y variopintas se sostiene.

De hecho, ningún tipo de inmunodeficiencia con ese tipo de etiología ha aumentado en los últimos 30 años. Sí, sin embargo, la asociada a la infección por HIV. Léase bien todos los puntos...
La única "prueba" de infección por VIH es un análisis de anticuerpos NO ESPECÍFICOS (el 50% de los perros dan positivo), por tanto me temo que la asociación es apresurada. Un examen mas detallado de los porcedimientos de diagnóstico demuestra que es arbitraria.

Un diagnóstico erróneo seguido de un tratamiento "preventivo" (AZT) que produce los mismos síntomas que la enfermedad, da como resultado un a explosión artificial en as estadísticas. Estmos ante un fenómeno de "profecía autocumplida".
 
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Siempre de esos hilos. Cito:
La fuerte correlación entre infección e inmunodeficiencia NO ES CAUSAL y se la está sobrevalorando porque la teoría "inmunodeficiencia=infección" distorsiona las observaciones.

Ejemplo del razonamiento circular, autorefrente y distorsionador en uso:
- Para diagnosticar inmunodeficiencia se exigen unas pruebas de laboratorio.

- Dichas pruebas SOLO se llevan a cabo si el médico sospecha inmunodeficiencia en el paciente (desequilibrio en el muestreo).

- Lo que hace sospechar normalmente son signos de una infección oportunista.

- El médico cree que las infecciones oportunistas son causadas por inmunodeficiencia (conclusión preconcebida).

- Se realiza la prueba y se detecta inmunodeficiencia.

- El médico se reafirma en su creencia de que la inmunodeficiencia es la causa de las infecciones oportunistas (prdecía autocumpida).


Esto es el primer postulado de Koch. Efectivamente, por sí sólo no demuestra la causa. Segundo postulado, tercer postulado. Leáse todo, haga el favor.

Naturalmente, si no presentas infección oportunista nunca te harán esas pruebas. Así pasan totalmente desapercibidos los casos de inmunodeficiencia no asociada a infecciones, de ahí que la correlación sea tan elevada en apariencia

Esto no es cierto. La de pruebas que se hacen sin estar asociadas a sospechas clínicas o a enfermeades dichas oportunistas, ensayos clínicos a doble ciego etc, etc, y etc...
 

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Esto no es cierto. La de pruebas que se hacen sin estar asociadas a sospechas clínicas o a enfermeades dichas oportunistas, ensayos clínicos a doble ciego etc, etc, y etc...
Falso, los protocolos de ELISA, WB y PCR filtran los sujetos sometidos a pruebas "confirmatorias". Se trata de una clara prespitación de las estadísticas.

La operativa es aplicar las pruebas VIH solo a personas preseleccionadas en base a unos prejuicios llamados "grupos de riesgo":


El efecto de este proceder, como puedes imaginar, es un circulo vicioso de profecías autocumplidas:

1. se definen unos "grupos de riesgo",

2. se busca activamente testear a personas de estos "grupos de riesgo",

3. las pruebas van acompañadas de un cuestionario costumbrista para decidir casos "dudosos", lo que equivale a reajustar los criterios interpretativos hacia el positivo en sujetos "de riesgo",

4. la correlación entre "grupo de riesgo" y HIV es cada vez mayor,

5. todos se dan palmaditas en la espalda de la "razón que tenían". :XX:​

Esto sin entrar en la no especificidad de los tests que se aplican, tema que da para mucho.
 
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- Para diagnosticar inmunodeficiencia se exigen unas pruebas de laboratorio.

- Dichas pruebas SOLO se llevan a cabo si el médico sospecha inmunodeficiencia en el paciente (desequilibrio en el muestreo)
Efectivamente.

JAMÁS se ha estudiado la incidencia del "VIH" en la población general, labor científica básica que -investigue usted porqué- no se ha hecho en más de 25 años que han pasado desde las primeras pruebas de "VIH".

Peter Duesberg ha propuesto que se estudie la incidencia del "VIH" en la población general (no enferma).

Ha vaticinado (¡que importante es hacer vaticinios precisos para saber quién tiene razón!) que habrá la misma (sí, la misma) incidencia de VIH en todas las edades, desde recién nacidos a monjas nonagerias.

Nadie ha querido hacer ese estudio.

Libido ignorando, que decían los medievales. La Oficialidad del SIDA prefiere no saber.
 
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Falso, los protocolos de ELISA, WB y PCR filtran los sujetos sometidos a pruebas "confirmatorias". Se trata de una clara prespitación de las estadísticas.

La operativa es aplicar las pruebas VIH solo a personas preseleccionadas en base a un os prejuicios llamados "grupos de riesgo":


El efecto de este proceder, como puedes imaginar, es un circulo vicioso de profecías autocumplidas:

1. se definen unos "grupos de riesgo",

2. se busca activamente testear a personas de estos "grupos de riesgo",

3. las pruebas van acompañadas de un cuestionario costumbrista para decidir casos "dudosos", lo que equivale a reajustar los criterios interpretativos hacia el positivo en sujetos "de riesgo",

4. la correlación entre "grupo de riesgo" y HIV es cada vez mayor,

5. todos se dan palmaditas en la espalda de la "razón que tenían". :XX:​

Esto sin entrar en la no especificidad de los tests que se aplican, tema que da para mucho.
Te has hecho alguna vez la prueba? Te la negarán?
He leído el hilo, con el tratamiento recibido por la tal Jennifer, y se me han quitado las ganas de continuar. Sólo diré que tanta inteligencia, que no os falta, usada mal, me da tristeza. Probablemente es error nuestro, no sé.
Sobre WB, ELISA y PCR, habláis con un desconocimiento que clama al cielo. No sé la sr. Jennifer, pero yo las he practicado y practico muy a menudo. Podrías demostrar que las entiendes? No quiero entrar en un debate sobre quién sabe más de ciencia y quién es más "creible", creo suficiente el hilo que me has citado para que el foro se haga una idea y juzgue. Haría falta una cantidad ingente de tiempo para explicar ciertos conceptos que os faltan, de inmunología, biología molecular, método científico básico, etc.
Me rindo en ese aspecto. No cierro, sin embargo, con resquemor. Quiero subrayar el esfuerzo intelectual que hacen pilinguin, Ayn, y otros, que aunque desde el desconocimiento científico evidente, les lleva a evaluar temas candentes de la investigación médica. Bravo y hasta otra
 

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Efectivamente.

JAMÁS se ha estudiado la incidencia del "VIH" en la población general, labor científica básica que -investigue usted porqué- no se ha hecho en más de 25 años que han pasado desde las primeras pruebas de "VIH".

Peter Duesberg ha propuesto que se estudie la incidencia del "VIH" en la población general (no enferma).

Ha vaticinado (¡que importante es hacer vaticinios precisos para saber quién tiene razón!) que habrá la misma (sí, la misma) incidencia de VIH en todas las edades, desde recién nacidos a monjas nonagerias.

Nadie ha querido hacer ese estudio.
Aclaro solo que la cita no es mia.
 

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Esto es el primer postulado de Koch. Efectivamente, por sí sólo no demuestra la causa. Segundo postulado, tercer postulado. Leáse todo, haga el favor.
Koch 2: El microbio debe ser aislado de alguien que tenga la enfermedad y debe poder amplificarse en cultivo puro

Koch requería que el microbio fuera aislado de todo el material que pudiera posiblemente causar la enfermedad, para que su tercer y cuarto postulados pudieran ser probados adecuadamente.

En mayo de 1983, Luc Montagnier y sus colegas en Francia reportaron el aislamiento de un bichito que llamaron LAV, que infectaba y mataba a células T CD4+. Un año después, el estadounidense Robert Gallo anunció que había aislado un bichito llamado HTLV-III y encontrado una manera de cultivarlo. Más tarde se descubrió que los dos bichito eran genéticamente indistinguibles y fueron rebautizados VIH.27...[/quote]

Bien, examinemos el informe original sobre "aislamiento" viral de Gallo (científico con un récord de fraude anterior a su "descubrimiento" del VIH).

Gallo somete el suero supuestamente infectado a un centrifgugado en gradiente de glucosa (hasta aquí perfecto).

Luego, en la banda correspondiente a la densidad viral (1.16 gm/ml) se realiza una microfotografía y DONDE DEBERÍAN ENCONTRARSE CONCENTRADOS LOS bichito, Gallo se encuenta con UN PURÉ DE CELULAS HUMANAS como éste donde el bichito brilla por su ausencia:





^^^
Esto es lo que el vendedor de crecepelo Gallo llamó VIH PURO!!!
:XX:

Hay cuatro flechas que apuntan a partículas SIN IDENTIFICAR con la etiqueta "V", ASUMIENDO ARBITRARIAMENTE que se trata del retrovirus causante de la enfermedad. El 99,9% del material "concentrado" no se corresponde a partícula viral alguna sino a restros de células del cultivo (humanas).

Por tanto Gallo ha estado vendiendo una concentración y aislamiento FRACASADOS, donde las contadas partículas de tamaño viral adquieren la identidad VIH por un acto de FE. Lo peor es que de es MATERIAL CELULAR HUMANO se han extraido las proteinas que se aplican a los tests del VIH. Estas pruebas fraudulentas DETECTAN ANTICUERPOS HUMANOS!!! no del VIH.

Para comparar y que sepáis de lo que estoy hablando, el virólogo Etienne de Harven - crítico de Gallo - nos muestra el resultado de una concentración viral por centrifugado en gradiente de glucosa EXITOSA, que al microscopio muestra sin lugar a dudas la estructura pseudo-cristalina de los bichito así:


(concentrado de bichito de leucemia por Etienne de Harven)

Cuando la concentración de un bichito realmete PURO tiene éxito se ve así, no como lo que nos quiere vender Gallo! Las flechas aquí, al contrario que en el caso de Gallo, muestran lo que NO es bichito :D Este es el material que permite carecterizar correctamente las proteinas de un bichito nuevo.

Ni Gallo ni nadie puede caracerizar ningún bichito nuevo en medio de todo ese ruido celular.

Y ya van dos postulados de Koch prostituidos en aras del negocio farmacéutico del siglo.
 

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Te has hecho alguna vez la prueba? Te la negarán?
Es lo mismo,los individuos que se hacen la prueba por iniciativa propia van porque se consideran "grupo de riesgo". La mayoría se hace por iniciativa médica a personas también de riesgo", por ejemplo, durante una consulta por enfermedad venérea.

Las estadísticas están podridas, dirigidas, es pseudociencia al servicio de trileros.
 
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Haría falta una cantidad ingente de tiempo para explicar ciertos conceptos que os faltan...
Ya que sabe usted más que nosotros:

¿Puede por favor indicarnos dónde está la fuente primaria que prueba que el VIH causa el SIDA?. (Tercera vez que se la pido).

Verá: Es que si no puede usted encontrar esa fuente va a resultar que usted cree que el VIH causa el SIDA por Fe, y no porque usted sepa que sea (no lo es) un hecho científico.
 

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Sobre WB, ELISA y PCR, habláis con un desconocimiento que clama al cielo. No sé la sr. Jennifer, pero yo las he practicado y practico muy a menudo. Podrías demostrar que las entiendes?
Demuéstralo tú. Sabes como se llama su inventor? sabes lo que opina sobre su uso en el "diagnóstico" del VIH?

La PCR es cualitativa y se ha estado usando durante décadas para "contar bichito", algo absurdo porque el factor de amplificación es imprevisible.

Sin "primers" específicos la PCR no detecta lo que se pretende detectar. Ya vimos que fallan el primero y el segundo postulado de Koch, por tanto no hay primers.

Si se aplica la PCR a la población en general (no solo a grupios de riesgo) la mitad de la gente dan un "carga viral" que no existe.

Mbeki T. Presidential AIDS Advisory Panel Report. A synthesis report of the deliberations by the panel of experts invited bythe President of the Republic of South Africa, the Honourable Mr. Thabo Mbeki, March 2001. Available at: HIV & AIDS - Presidential AIDS Advisory Panel Report - Contents . Accessed Jan 19,2006.

2.2.2 PCR (Polymerase Chain Reaction) and ELISAs

As already stated above, some panellists, including Dr de Harven, concurred that there is not one single report in the entire medical literature in which a correlation has been established between high viral load measured by PCR of AIDS patients and the observation of HIV particles by electron microscopy. According to him, the best experts in the field concur that this essential correlation has never been made. Dr de Harven went on to stress that (1) any epidemiological studies based on ELISA or Western Blots would have to be fundamentally re-appraised; and (2) that amowing up AIDS patients with PCR measurement of viral load is, in his opinion, scientific nonsense.

Furthermore, there were repeated assertions by some panellists that Dr Kary Mullis, who won the Nobel Prize for developing the PCR, has cautioned that the PCR is not an acceptable method for measuring viral load. It was also argued that the PCR is not a test for bichito per se but could be totally non-specific and therefore not identify HIV.

Dr Giraldo accused the proponents of the theory that HIV causes AIDS of attaching a lot of value to PCR amplification of fragments of nucleic acids because of their inability to isolate the complete HIV particles even from patients at the height of the disease. Furthermore, PCR is not quantitative because it is not reproducible - repeat amplifications of the same sample delivering different results.

Dr Lane pointed out that the ELISA is a screening test to detect whether someone might be infectious and is not a diagnostic test for HIV. However, a combination of the ELISA with a Western Blot provides a very accurate method of diagnosing HIV infection. Dr Giraldo did not understand how two tests that were individually not diagnostic could be the basis of a diagnosis when combined. Reference was made to the amowing statements made by the manufacturers of kits used for ELISA, Western Blot and PCR tests:

* "ELISA testing cannot be used to diagnose AIDS, even if the recommended investigation of reactive specimens suggests that antibodies to HIV are present" and "Specimens found to be repeatably reactive by Abbott HIV AB HIV-1/HIV-2(rDNA) EIA must be investigated by additional more specific supplementary tests"

* "Do not use this kit as the sole basis of diagnosing HIV-1 infection"

* "The Amplicor HIV-1 Monitor test is not intended to be used as a screening test for HIV or as a diagnostic test to confirm the presence of HIV infection"




Respecto al Western Blot, los criterios para decidir si un resultado es positivo o negativo varían de un pais a otro y de una institución a otra:

Variación del criterio interpretativo de un Western Blot VIH-positivo de un pais a otro:



De esto se deduce que la prueba WB del VIH, al NO SER REPETIBLE, no es científica.

Tambien se deduce que los criterios de interpretación, al no ser uniformes, están HECHOS A MEDIDA (ad hoc) con el propósito fraudulento de forzar un encaje de los datos clínicos disponibles en cada sitio.

Se da el absurdo de que una persona declarada seropositiva en Alemania, con solo tomar un vuelo a Australia y hacerse allí el WB se "cura" :D porque la interpretación es diferente .... a tomar por el trastero el método científico!
 
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Quiero subrayar el esfuerzo intelectual que hacen pilinguin, Ayn, y otros, que aunque desde el desconocimiento científico evidente, les lleva a evaluar temas candentes de la investigación médica. Bravo y hasta otra
No patronice.

Usted nunca ha se ha preocupado de indagar los estudios pioneros del SIDA para ver que no contienen errores ni falsedades o le han tomado el pelo. Está usted pisando terreno virgen que desconoce y nosotros de vuelta. Aprenda.
 
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