¿Habéis visto el IBEX 35? - Mayo 2010 +

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Iba a comprar oro mediante un ETF... pero a ver de que me va a servir el papel! 😉

Van a cerrar la bolsa seguro os recomiendo vender
Y aunque no la cerrasen!

Esto lo acabo de leer en un foro:

he leído en otro foro que un hedge fun se he debido liar con el EURO, un fallo técnico o algo así, y han saltado todos a vender de golpe.
Ahora recupera con fuerza y el DOW está casi en 10500
Un globo sonda en toda regla.
 
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Yo había dado ya el día por liquidado y resulta que sólo habíamos visto un aperitivo...
 
A mi no me peguéis 😀 que yo solo digo el porque del petardazo.
 
El Dow Jones cae mas de un 8% y acaba de perder los 10.000 :8:

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:ouch: la-ma-dre-que-me-parió....


Stocks extend plunge on concerns about Greece
Stocks tumble anew on concerns Greece bailout won't stem losses; jobless claims disappoint
Stephen Bernard, AP Business Writer, On Thursday May 6, 2010, 2:38 pm

NEW YORK (AP) -- Stocks extended their plunge into a third day Thursday as investors succumbed to antiestéticars that Greece's debt problems would spread.

The Dow Jones industrial average fell 354 points in afternoon trading. The Dow and broader indexes dropped more than 3 percent. The Dow had already fallen 284 points in the prior two days. Treasury prices rose on increased demand for safe government debt.

The euro fell further against the dollar, hitting a new 14-month low. The euro has tumbled against the dollar since last fall as faith in Europe's shared currency dwindles. Greece's debt crunch is widely seen as a test of Europe's ability to restore fiscal discipline to the weak economies in its union and keep the decade-old currency viable.

"It's going to drop further," Tim Speiss, chairman of the personal wealth advisers practice at Eisner LLP in New York, said of the euro.

The dollar's rise pushed commodities prices lower, especially oil. That sent prices of oil companies like ExxonMobil and Chevron lower.

Greece passed a bill in its Parliament after heated debate that calls for unpopular cuts in public spending in pensions and other areas, as well as tax increases. Greece needed to approve the austerity measures to be eligible to receive a $141.9 billion aid package from the International Monetary Fund and the 15 other countries that use the euro.

Greece needs access to an initial portion of the money by May 19 to cover $11.6 billion in debt payments, or it likely will default.

Even if Greece gets the money, there are still worries that the loans would be only a temporary fix to a growing debt problem across the continent. Portugal and Spain have also seen their debt ratings downgraded.

In economic news, the Labor Department said new claims for jobless benefits fell lass than expected last week. It also said productivity rose more than forecast in the first quarter, but that was due in part to a drop in labor costs, which is a negative signal for consumer spending. The report comes a day ahead of the government's April jobs report. It is widely seen as the most important economic report.

In midafternoon trading, the Dow fell 354.75, or 3.3 percent, to 10,513.37. The Standard & Poor's 500 index fell 41.99, or 3.6 percent, to 1,123.91, while the Nasdaq composite index fell 95.23, or 4 percent, to 2,307.06.

Treasury prices rose, pushing interest rates down in the bond market. The yield on the benchmark 10-year Treasury note fell to 3.41 percent from 3.54 percent late Wednesday.

Por cierto: Trichet aguanta sin usar la "opción nuclear" (que el propio BCE compre la deuda) 🙂)

ECB Withholds 'Nuclear Option'
By TERENCE ROTH and GEOFFREY T. SMITH

FRANKFURT—The European Central Bank's monetary council withheld its strongest weapon for stopping the Greek debt crisis from spreading to weaker euro-zone financial markets, but ECB watchers don't rule out a later deployment.

Called the ECB's "nuclear option" in the markets, the procedure would involve the purchase of government bonds in the secondary market. Rumors that it could be activated as early as Thursday were flatly dismissed.

"We did not discuss this option," ECB President Jean-Claude Trichet said Thursday at a news conference, brushing aside all attempts at elaboration.

European credit markets, shares and the euro all reacted negatively to the news that the ECB was taking no further action to contain the contagion threat. The cost of insuring western European sovereign debt against default using credit default swaps continued to rise after Mr. Trichet's address, with fiscally vulnerable countries Greece, Portugal and Spain particularly affected. The euro, meanwhile, fell to a fresh 14-months low against the dollar of $1.2695, and bank stocks came under pressure.

The ECB again left interest rates unchanged at its policy meeting in Lisbon, but attention in financial markets has been focused on what else the ECB can do to reassure investors and staunch the contagion effect of Greece's turmoil.

The idea of the ECB buying government bonds is deemed the strongest means of putting to rest investor antiestéticars that government bond issuance would no longer find buyers because of perceived default risk. Knowing that the ECB would step in might put a cap on speculation, but it also would be a huge undertaking and would amount to monetizing debt, which no central bank likes to do because it raises inflation risk.

The European Union treaty forbids primary purchases of bonds directly from national treasuries, but leaves room for indirect purchases of securities that have already gone on the market.
Journal Community

Bond purchases would retard or even reverse the run-up in premiums that fiscally weak governments have to pay on their debt, and also cap the rising price of insuring that debt against default. But analysts say the fallout could be potentially devastating for the 16-nation euro currency and the primary institution behind it, the ECB. For that reason, it is a last-ditch measure that the ECB really hopes to avoid having to use.

"There is probably nothing more frustrating for policy makers [than] to see that the Greek program is already being brushed aside by the market, which is now entirely concentrated on a full-blown contagion across euro-area countries and euro-area asset classes and spilling over to global markets," analysts at the Royal Bank of Scotland wrote in a research note Thursday.

"Our belief that such a radical policy response is not going to be announced imminently (or today, for example) is based on the fact that most policy makers are still focused on the Greek issue as being the source of all the problems," RBS said.

Moody's Investors Service, the ratings agency, echoed that warning in a report issued Thursday, saying that the potential contagion of sovereign risks to banking systems could spread to other countries such as Portugal, Spain, Italy, Ireland and even the U.K., which is outside the euro zone.

Those antiestéticars weighed on sovereign debt markets, with the annual cost of insuring $10 million of five-year Spanish government debt rising to $260,000 after Mr. Trichet spoke, from $230,000 immediately after a successful Spanish bond auction. Greece's insurance costs on $10 million of five-year debt shot up to $875,000 from $815,000. And Portugal's rose to $455,000 from $430,000 beforehand.

CDS ******** like default insurance contracts for debt. If a borrower defaults, the protection buyer is paid compensation by the protection seller.

"Trichet is going for the 'crisis, what crisis? approach," said Gary Jenkins, head of fixed-income research at Evolution Securities. "I am not convinced that this denial of the problems facing European sovereigns is healthy. It is also difficult to believe that they didn't even discuss the possibility of buying government bonds," he said.

At the very least, the trouble in Greece is likely to stop in its tracks the ECB's gradual return to a "normal" monetary policy stance.

"With panic spreading in the market, demand for liquidity is picking up," UniCredit analysts said in a Thursday note to clients.

As talk of a broader crisis with euro-zone sovereign debt spreads, conditions in the market for covered bonds have deteriorated too, raising the possibility that the ECB may have to extend its €60 billion ($76.93 billion) support program to that segment.

Many think the central bank may be forced to start offering unlimited funds for longer periods again, after trying to phase such operations out over the last six months.

This week has seen a big increase in euro-zone banks' use of both the ECB's deposit facility and its marginal lending facility. The first is an indication that they are scared of lending to other banks, the second a sign of their inability to borrow in the market.

The Greek crisis already has forced the ECB to abandon its plan to restore its original, tighter criteria for the debt it accepts as collateral at its lending windows. Its announcement Monday that it would continue to accept Greek bonds indefinitely as collateral, even if the world's rating agencies all considered them junk, averted a systemic crisis among Greek banks. But it amounted to a humiliating U-turn for Mr. Trichet, denting the authority of the bank as a whole.

Write to Terence Roth at terence.roth@dowjones.com and Geoffrey T. Smith at geoffrey.smith@dowjones.com

Go Greeks GO!!!!

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Dow 10,352.47 -515.65 (-4.74%)
S&P 500 1,121.80 -44.07 (-3.78%)
Nasdaq 2,312.74


no se me ha caído lo veo en tiemp real
 
Sólo quiero decir:

YO ESTUVE AQUí

Si alguien tiene ONO/Imagenio etc. que ponga algún canal tipo Bloomberg/CNBC, todos chillando y asustados...
 
Vamos a lo importante, la liga quien la va a ganar el barsa o el madrid 😀
 
Quién haya comprado en el momento álgido de pánico se ha forrado. Claro que eso quiere decir que alguien ha perdido MUCHO dinero.

Es una locura.

Me largo a hacer deporte.
 
Aqui salen los limites de caida del Dow Jones:

Si cae un 10% o 1050 puntos antes de las 14:00 se suspende la sesion 1 hora.
Si cae un 10% o 1050 puntos entre las 14:00 y las 14:30 se suspende la sesion media hora.
Y si cae un 10% despues de las 14:30 no se suspende la sesion



El minimo de hoy ha sido una caida del 9,2% asi que hemos andado cerca...
 
Van a venir muchos más pánicos ahora si que veo el ibex en 3000 y creo que me quedo corto
 
Clandestinamente desde el curro
Me he enterado por Intereconomía.
Estoy eufórico.Y corto
Chao ,no sea que me pillen
 
Luca, Aleph acaba de escribir ahora mismo que el siguiente ataque a los 6000 directo.
 
Jooooooder , salgo un momento a comprar unos cartones de tabaco y se derrumba el chiringo, pero que ha pasao, están atacando ARPANET?
 
bua, que locura, nunca había visto nada así, los bandazos que da son brutales, da igual para arriba que para abajo, con esta volatilidad es imposible que a alguien le aguanten los stops.
Y a ver quien se atreve a quedarse comprado o vendido para mañana...porque queda poca sesión.
 
Primer tramo: 1167-1065 begin_of_the_skype_highlighting**************1167-1065******end_of_the_skype_highlighting 102puntos
Rebote: 1065-1130 65puntos
Segundo tramo: 1130-1112 Por ahora 18puntos

El que no entienda mucho de bolsa o vaya a operar sin stops que se abstenga...

Saludos...
 
La operación es para Destruir a España. Así de sencillo.

EEUU no se esta jugando nada, pero los futuros de España apuntan a que mañana puede ser un Día Espantoso.

Me voy a leer un Manual de Fabricación de Bombas...
 
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