*Tema mítico* : ⚡ Ya es oficial, ha ganado el Brexit por más de 1.000.000 de votos (III)
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Hay un dialogo de sordos, por una parte el EU quiere que el UK extiende el periodo de transición 2 años mas y negociar una acuerdo completo ( se ve que le hace falta 24 billones mas para cuadrar cuentas)
Boris y su Gobierno han decidido que no habrá extensión y les de igual si hay o si no hay acuerdo, habrán preferido que hay un acuerdo, pero tiene asumido que no habrá un acuerdo porque:
- No hay tiempo en 11 meses para negociar un acuerdo que no sea un FTA de mínimos limitado a bienes de consumo.
- El EU ha decidido jugar todo por lo todo pensando que Boris va ceder y extender el periodo de transición para tener un acuerdo completo….
En este momento la única opción realista es que el EU se olvida de todo y que se centra en un acuerdo de mínimos sobre el comercio de bienies con el periodo de transición acabando sin extenderse……. Esto dicho, siempre queda la opción al EU de ofrecer pagar al UK 1 billón al mes para ver si Boris acepta extender Brexit……. 😉
“the Queens english” es comunalmente usado para referirse al acento, se supone que cuando ya sabes hablar “The Queens English” o mejor, el ya antiguo y en desusó “BBC English” ya tenias dominado el vocabulario y grammer. Lo mas lamentable es el ingles hablado en el BBC……El ingles del BBC ha cambiado, No puedo escucharlo, mucho menos ver el BBC, me produce un sobre salto a oir lo y a ver lo un profunda irritación, cuando hablan mueven los manos mas que un italiano, no usan la lengua para expresarse usan gestos, y esto es el BBC.
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Si miras el discurso de Boris , mira cono gesticula los manos…… el 99% de los veces es descoordinado con su discurso, se ve que no le sale desde dentro, pero esta forma de “hablar” el inglés se ha puesto de moda y sus asesores le habran convencido que debe dar énfasis gesticulando con los manos en vez de con la lengua y la mente.
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Sí, intentas explicarnos que es un tema de clasicismo cuando la carta apesta de racismo ("infected" es lenguaje de la extrema derecha) y hablas de "un inglés puro" pero ni te das cuenta de unos fallos de ortografía bastante garrafales.
"Queen's English", Patricio. "Queen's English". Con apóstrofo.
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Lo de no saber utilizar el apóstrofo de manera correcta es un fallo muy común entre quienes hablan inglés pero apenas saben escribirlo. Tipo al confundir el "a ver" con el "haber" en castellano. Habría que ver a quien escribió esa nota.Sí, intentas explicarnos que es un tema de clasicismo cuando la carta apesta de racismo ("infected" es lenguaje de la extrema derecha) y hablas de "un inglés puro" pero ni te das cuenta de unos fallos de ortografía bastante garrafales.
"Queen's English", Patricio. "Queen's English". Con apóstrofo.
La nota lo que muestra es lo que ya se ha comentado muchas veces: que una parte muy significativa del voto Brexit está compuesto de individuos que quieren echar de la isla a todo aquel que no sea británico.
Sí, intentas explicarnos que es un tema de clasicismo cuando la carta apesta de racismo ("infected" es lenguaje de la extrema derecha) y hablas de "un inglés puro" pero ni te das cuenta de unos fallos de ortografía bastante garrafales.
"Queen's English", Patricio. "Queen's English". Con apóstrofo.
Jesus, no puedo contigo, tanto densidad no tiene ni el Osmio
en clave de humor solo pretendía minusvalora el autor mostrando que el propio autor no hablaba el inglés “de la Reina” y en realidad casi nadie lo hacia.
y Aqui Hoy Ya hay escuelas quien ensena como "Hablar con los manos
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...o-do-with-your-hands-when-speaking-in-public/
news presenters speaking with their hands - Buscar con Google
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What to do with your hands when speaking in public
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November 17, 2015 at 4:12 p.m. GMT+1
Somewhere along the way, most of us have been given advice about public speaking that goes something like this: Don't use your hands too much. Just keep gestures to a minimum so people can focus on your words.
Yet research shows that it's actually effective for a presenter's hands to do plenty of "talking". They just need to be saying the right thing.
For instance, consultant Vanessa Van Edwards studied famous TED talks and found that the ones that went viral and became wildly popular antiestéticatured the speakers who used their hands the most. The least-watched TED talks had an average of 124,000 views and used an average of 272 hand gestures. The top-ranked ones, meanwhile, had an average of 7.4 million views and 465 hand gestures during the same length of time.
"When really charismatic leaders use hand gestures, the brain is super happy," she said. "Because it’s getting two explanations in one, and the brain loves that."
The problem for most people, of course, is figuring out how to use the right gestures that reinforce their verbal message—all while anxiously trying to remember what to say. So what's effective and what's distracting? On Leadership checked in with five speech coaches and body language experts to better understand the right and wrong ways to use your hands when you're speaking in front of a crowd.
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"Do what comes naturally" may be common advice from presentation coaches, and it's easy to see why they say it: Get too choreographed with your gestures, and you'll forget your speech or look like a seven-year-old pantomiming to pop radio.
But there are some instances where having a pre-planned descriptive gesture at the ready can really help.
If you're talking about a small thing, pinch your fingers. If it's a really big point, don't be afraid to gesture your hands in the air. To help audience members keep track of what you're saying, hold out one hand to describe the benefits of an issue and then the other to describe a list of downsides, Van Edwards suggests.
And "anytime you say a number below 5, you really should show that with your hand," she says. "It helps people remember the number; it helps us believe the word. It's a way we underline, like a nonverbal highlighter, the word people should remember."
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One of the few universal recommendations we heard was to make outstretched gestures to the audience with open palms. That may be because it has evolutionary underpinnings. Mark Bowden, president of a Toronto-based communications training firm, refers to it as "no tools, no weapons." Everything from the handshake to the "hands up" movement people give to police provides proof that you have nothing to hide.
"If I'm showing open palms, it signals to everybody that I've got nothing to harm you and I'm exposed," he says.
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Generally, it's a good idea to keep your hands in what some speech coaches refer to as the "strike zone"—a baseball reference that in presentations refers to the area from your shoulder to the top part of your hips. "That's the sweet spot," says Van Edwards. "That's a really natural area for you to gesture." Going too wide or too high with your arms too often can be distracting, but again, presentation experts say it's not a hard and fast rule. Keep it in mind, but don't worry about breaking it occasionally.
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Meanwhile, one of the few repeated no-nos we heard was to avoid pointing. It can look aggressive, unwelcoming and off-putting to many in the crowd. "Audiences hate it," Van Edwards says. It's enough of a problem, in fact, that some politicians have created substitute gestures to avoid it (see the "Clinton thumb" below). For most people, it's better to find a descriptive or more open gesture to emphasize a key issue.
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It's been dubbed the "Clinton thumb"—when a politician makes a fist and rests his thumb on top of it. Seen as a way to coach speakers out of pointing, pounding their fists or looking too aggressive, it's been used by everyone from John F. Kennedy to former U.K. Prime Minister Tony Blair to Bill Clinton, whose use of it has been both mocked and mirrored.
While the gesture may be helpful for some politicians who have had to carefully balance how aggressive they appear (Van Edwards, for instance, thinks Obama's thumb-on-fist is effective), it just doesn't look natural for most of us.
"I never see a human being do that move who’s not running for office," says Jeffrey Davenport, a speaker coach who works for the presentation firm Duarte. "Occasionally you’ll see CEOs do it. They like to imagine themselves in that same rare air as a president of the United States. But most people just don’t do that at a party."
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However prepared you may be, there inevitably comes a moment when you realize you've done exactly what you shouldn't. Perhaps you've spent the last five minutes pointing, or something just doesn't feel right with the gestures you're using.
When that happens, says Jerry Weissman, a San Bruno, Calif.-based corporate presentations coach, he tells people to briefly drop their hands down to their sides. It serves as a reset button of sorts. "It's like home base for the arms," he says. But only keep them there temporarily—"touch and go," as Weissman calls it.
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As with most of this advice, everything in moderation is fine. But speakers who spend too much time clasping their hands in front of their groin area—often out of not knowing what to do—inevitably draw attention to the wrong place.
Moreover, it keeps their hands still and unable to be used in more effective ways. Weissman calls it the "fig leaf," and again suggests breaking the habit by dropping arms to the side for a brief moment.
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People writing a great speech are careful to mix up the length of their sentences, the tone of their voice and the volume of their words. It's important to do the same with your hands, avoiding repetitive gestures such as slicing the air or chopping it into an open palm for more than a moment or two.
"I always call it conducting," says Gina Barnett, an executive communications coach who coaches TED conference speakers. "When you do anything in a repetitive pattern, [the audience] is gone. It's boring."
Women in particular should be careful of it, says Van Edwards. Research has shown that women's voices stimulate parts of the male brain used to decipher music. "If a woman has a very repetitive gesture, it could make it seem like she's not saying anything new, that she's droning on and on" to the men in the audience, Van Edwards says, as they are already prone to hear her voice as more singsong. "A metronome-like gesture actually encourages that thought, even if she is saying something different."
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Barnett says she commonly sees clients whom she's coaching stand up with a pen in their hands, give a presentation, and not realize they've spent the entire time clicking the pen's top. Other people rustle papers they're holding or beat their thumbs on a table or podium.
These are all examples of fidgeting, she says, which distract the listener or make the speaker come off as nervous. "That's why I always say 'don't have anything in your hands,' " Barnett says. "People fidget, and they're often clueless to what they're doing."
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Standing behind a big furniture piece might make some people feel safer, but it causes problems for others. Gripping the top of the lectern, revealing white knuckles as you steady your nerves, or making low hidden gestures that can't be seen by the audience are all common blunders. Instead, hands "should be out and alive and moving and not holding on for dear life," Barnett says. Either rest them on the lectern lightly or use gestures the audience can see.
Hiding your hands isn't a good idea away from the podium, either. Van Edwards remembers one client who was seen as cold and intimidating by his team. After sitting in on a few meetings, she noticed he regularly held his hands behind his back while talking. "As soon as he pulled his hands out from behind his back, the amount of discussion and length of it increased two-fold," she recalls. "I can’t say it was only that, but it was the clearest moment where I was like 'wow, [showing our hands] really does something subconscious in our brains that helps us trust.' "
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German Chancellor Angela Merkel has a trademark hand gesture, one so well known that it has inspired Internet memes and emoticons, has its own name ("Merkel-Raute") and has even been depicted on a giant political campaign billboard. She holds her hands in front of her midsection, fingertips and thumbs typically touching in a diamond shape with the fingers pointed down.
It may somehow work for Merkel as her signature gesture, but others should avoid it. Generally, touching the finger tips—what Barnett calls "spider hands"—can look tense and unrelaxed. A branded gesture like Merkel's can "feel sort of stagey," she says, and is distracting to the audience.
And then, of course, there's the risk of unintended meaning. Pointing the thumb and index fingers together in a diamond shape is similar to the sign language gesture for a part of the female anatomy. And that's exactly the kind of confusing signal no speaker wants to send.
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By
Jena McGregor and
Shelly Tan
November 17, 2015 at 4:12 p.m. GMT+1
Somewhere along the way, most of us have been given advice about public speaking that goes something like this: Don't use your hands too much. Just keep gestures to a minimum so people can focus on your words.
Yet research shows that it's actually effective for a presenter's hands to do plenty of "talking". They just need to be saying the right thing.
For instance, consultant Vanessa Van Edwards studied famous TED talks and found that the ones that went viral and became wildly popular antiestéticatured the speakers who used their hands the most. The least-watched TED talks had an average of 124,000 views and used an average of 272 hand gestures. The top-ranked ones, meanwhile, had an average of 7.4 million views and 465 hand gestures during the same length of time.
"When really charismatic leaders use hand gestures, the brain is super happy," she said. "Because it’s getting two explanations in one, and the brain loves that."
The problem for most people, of course, is figuring out how to use the right gestures that reinforce their verbal message—all while anxiously trying to remember what to say. So what's effective and what's distracting? On Leadership checked in with five speech coaches and body language experts to better understand the right and wrong ways to use your hands when you're speaking in front of a crowd.
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"Do what comes naturally" may be common advice from presentation coaches, and it's easy to see why they say it: Get too choreographed with your gestures, and you'll forget your speech or look like a seven-year-old pantomiming to pop radio.
But there are some instances where having a pre-planned descriptive gesture at the ready can really help.
If you're talking about a small thing, pinch your fingers. If it's a really big point, don't be afraid to gesture your hands in the air. To help audience members keep track of what you're saying, hold out one hand to describe the benefits of an issue and then the other to describe a list of downsides, Van Edwards suggests.
And "anytime you say a number below 5, you really should show that with your hand," she says. "It helps people remember the number; it helps us believe the word. It's a way we underline, like a nonverbal highlighter, the word people should remember."
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One of the few universal recommendations we heard was to make outstretched gestures to the audience with open palms. That may be because it has evolutionary underpinnings. Mark Bowden, president of a Toronto-based communications training firm, refers to it as "no tools, no weapons." Everything from the handshake to the "hands up" movement people give to police provides proof that you have nothing to hide.
"If I'm showing open palms, it signals to everybody that I've got nothing to harm you and I'm exposed," he says.
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Generally, it's a good idea to keep your hands in what some speech coaches refer to as the "strike zone"—a baseball reference that in presentations refers to the area from your shoulder to the top part of your hips. "That's the sweet spot," says Van Edwards. "That's a really natural area for you to gesture." Going too wide or too high with your arms too often can be distracting, but again, presentation experts say it's not a hard and fast rule. Keep it in mind, but don't worry about breaking it occasionally.
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Meanwhile, one of the few repeated no-nos we heard was to avoid pointing. It can look aggressive, unwelcoming and off-putting to many in the crowd. "Audiences hate it," Van Edwards says. It's enough of a problem, in fact, that some politicians have created substitute gestures to avoid it (see the "Clinton thumb" below). For most people, it's better to find a descriptive or more open gesture to emphasize a key issue.
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It's been dubbed the "Clinton thumb"—when a politician makes a fist and rests his thumb on top of it. Seen as a way to coach speakers out of pointing, pounding their fists or looking too aggressive, it's been used by everyone from John F. Kennedy to former U.K. Prime Minister Tony Blair to Bill Clinton, whose use of it has been both mocked and mirrored.
While the gesture may be helpful for some politicians who have had to carefully balance how aggressive they appear (Van Edwards, for instance, thinks Obama's thumb-on-fist is effective), it just doesn't look natural for most of us.
"I never see a human being do that move who’s not running for office," says Jeffrey Davenport, a speaker coach who works for the presentation firm Duarte. "Occasionally you’ll see CEOs do it. They like to imagine themselves in that same rare air as a president of the United States. But most people just don’t do that at a party."
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However prepared you may be, there inevitably comes a moment when you realize you've done exactly what you shouldn't. Perhaps you've spent the last five minutes pointing, or something just doesn't feel right with the gestures you're using.
When that happens, says Jerry Weissman, a San Bruno, Calif.-based corporate presentations coach, he tells people to briefly drop their hands down to their sides. It serves as a reset button of sorts. "It's like home base for the arms," he says. But only keep them there temporarily—"touch and go," as Weissman calls it.
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As with most of this advice, everything in moderation is fine. But speakers who spend too much time clasping their hands in front of their groin area—often out of not knowing what to do—inevitably draw attention to the wrong place.
Moreover, it keeps their hands still and unable to be used in more effective ways. Weissman calls it the "fig leaf," and again suggests breaking the habit by dropping arms to the side for a brief moment.
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People writing a great speech are careful to mix up the length of their sentences, the tone of their voice and the volume of their words. It's important to do the same with your hands, avoiding repetitive gestures such as slicing the air or chopping it into an open palm for more than a moment or two.
"I always call it conducting," says Gina Barnett, an executive communications coach who coaches TED conference speakers. "When you do anything in a repetitive pattern, [the audience] is gone. It's boring."
Women in particular should be careful of it, says Van Edwards. Research has shown that women's voices stimulate parts of the male brain used to decipher music. "If a woman has a very repetitive gesture, it could make it seem like she's not saying anything new, that she's droning on and on" to the men in the audience, Van Edwards says, as they are already prone to hear her voice as more singsong. "A metronome-like gesture actually encourages that thought, even if she is saying something different."
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Barnett says she commonly sees clients whom she's coaching stand up with a pen in their hands, give a presentation, and not realize they've spent the entire time clicking the pen's top. Other people rustle papers they're holding or beat their thumbs on a table or podium.
These are all examples of fidgeting, she says, which distract the listener or make the speaker come off as nervous. "That's why I always say 'don't have anything in your hands,' " Barnett says. "People fidget, and they're often clueless to what they're doing."
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Standing behind a big furniture piece might make some people feel safer, but it causes problems for others. Gripping the top of the lectern, revealing white knuckles as you steady your nerves, or making low hidden gestures that can't be seen by the audience are all common blunders. Instead, hands "should be out and alive and moving and not holding on for dear life," Barnett says. Either rest them on the lectern lightly or use gestures the audience can see.
Hiding your hands isn't a good idea away from the podium, either. Van Edwards remembers one client who was seen as cold and intimidating by his team. After sitting in on a few meetings, she noticed he regularly held his hands behind his back while talking. "As soon as he pulled his hands out from behind his back, the amount of discussion and length of it increased two-fold," she recalls. "I can’t say it was only that, but it was the clearest moment where I was like 'wow, [showing our hands] really does something subconscious in our brains that helps us trust.' "
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German Chancellor Angela Merkel has a trademark hand gesture, one so well known that it has inspired Internet memes and emoticons, has its own name ("Merkel-Raute") and has even been depicted on a giant political campaign billboard. She holds her hands in front of her midsection, fingertips and thumbs typically touching in a diamond shape with the fingers pointed down.
It may somehow work for Merkel as her signature gesture, but others should avoid it. Generally, touching the finger tips—what Barnett calls "spider hands"—can look tense and unrelaxed. A branded gesture like Merkel's can "feel sort of stagey," she says, and is distracting to the audience.
And then, of course, there's the risk of unintended meaning. Pointing the thumb and index fingers together in a diamond shape is similar to the sign language gesture for a part of the female anatomy. And that's exactly the kind of confusing signal no speaker wants to send.
El discurso de Boris ha sido decepcionante. Dice que el Reino Unido es el Superman que el mundo pide a gritos para salvarlo de la deriva proteccionista y conducirlo a una nueva era dorada del comercio global y sin trabas.
Todo esto es literal, no me lo invento.
Y eso es sólo el principio de su intervención, que luego sigue con referencias a repetir los logros comerciales del Imperio. Buena suerte reinvadiendo India.
Finalmente se pone serio y amenaza tanto a USA como a la UE: o aceptáis mis condiciones o no hay trato. Con un par, iba a decir que sin despeinarse, pero en su caso no aplica.
El mundo tiene por fin a su Clark Kent. Podemos todos respirar tranquilos.
Todo esto es literal, no me lo invento.
Y eso es sólo el principio de su intervención, que luego sigue con referencias a repetir los logros comerciales del Imperio. Buena suerte reinvadiendo India.
Finalmente se pone serio y amenaza tanto a USA como a la UE: o aceptáis mis condiciones o no hay trato. Con un par, iba a decir que sin despeinarse, pero en su caso no aplica.
El mundo tiene por fin a su Clark Kent. Podemos todos respirar tranquilos.
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Llevan fatal eso de haber sido superados por Alemania. Eso de pensar que supuestamente ellos derrotaron a los alemanes en la Segunda Guerra Mundial y ahora los alemanes están mejor que ellos lo llevan muy mal. Se les ha subido a la cabeza glorias pasadas y ahora les cuesta aceptar que haya tantos países que les hayan superado. Alguien debería explicarles que Alemania ya superó al Reino Unido hace varias décadas y, sobre todo, que ellos no derrotaron a Alemania; que si no llega a ser por los perecid de la Unión Soviética y por los dolares estadounidenses, Alemania no hubiese sido derrotada.
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Postureo de cara a la galeria, los lectores del sun y los euroescepticos del partido, o eso espero
La libra en caida libre, eso es lo que cuenta
Porque repetir los "logros del imperio" tiene guasa, cuando hacian la "gunboat diplomacy" de enviar la royal navy contra paises socialmente en la edad media y robarles materias primas y obligarles a comprar productos manufacturados
Porque un pais que importa el 50% del combustible, el 40% de la comida y el 80% de las materias primas, no se puede poner muy chulito
Sin contar que la productividad inglesa esta por debajo de la italiana, quemanda guevos
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Quedan solo dos posibilidades:
1. Quejándose y pateando hasta el final y después aceptar el acuerdo que pone la UE (igual como el acuerdo de retirada).
2. No tienen ni intención de llegar a un acuerdo y acabarán provocando una salida sin acuerdo comercial pero como el acuerdo de retirada ya está pactada no será tan grave que una salida sin acuerdo de retirada.
1. Quejándose y pateando hasta el final y después aceptar el acuerdo que pone la UE (igual como el acuerdo de retirada).
2. No tienen ni intención de llegar a un acuerdo y acabarán provocando una salida sin acuerdo comercial pero como el acuerdo de retirada ya está pactada no será tan grave que una salida sin acuerdo de retirada.
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El acuerdo de retirada solo trata del pago de la deuda, el tratamiento de los ciudadanos de la UE y la frontera en irlanda del norte, a partir de ahi no hay nada firmado
La verdad es que el Boris prometio a los suyos de todo y luego firmo lo que le puso delante la UE, incluyendo frontera con controles entre gran Bretaña e irlanda del norte, asi que o bien se baja los pantalones o no tiene intencion de cumplir lo acordado.
En el primer caso se convierte en "estado vasallo" y en el segundo un "estado paria"
No, queda el tercero opción, el que yo llevo avisando estos semanas.
Al principio el EU se mantendrá en sus treces; acuerdo completo, normas EU, Supervisión EU….. con el tiempo llegaran al conclusión que Boris no va aceptar estar bajo las normas del EU y tampoco va extender el periodo de transición.
Entonces M Barnier volverá a Bruselas y pedirá una nueva mandato para negociar un acuerdo de mínimos con el UK; suponiendo que Barnier puede convencer los 27 a renunciar a sus prioridades y aceptar negociar una acuerdo que solo protege los fabricantes de automóviles, quizás los químicos y otros industrias de bienes de consumo, se negociara un acuerdo de mínimos con el UK. A esta acuerdo lo mas probable se sumara una será de acuerdos Temporales por la Banca, servicios , agricultura, pesca y tampoco el UK estera en el Unión aduanera ni mercado única. En los años venideros se ira negociando distintos capítulos y renovando acuerdos temporales….
El 31 de Dec un acuerdo de mínimos sobre áreas muy limitados + - WTO + ( Australia)
Mi razonamiento es el siguiente
El sector del automóvil es un sector maduro y las normativas son casi mundiales, para el UK no hay ningún problema en adoptar estas normativas, en cambio las otros temas si son un problema y el UK y EU deberán encontrar un balance aceptable a los dos, esto va tardar mucho.
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AL Contrario,
el acuerdo sobre Irlanda del Norte tiene fecha de caducidad, 2 años, después se renovara solo si el parlamento de Irlanda del Norte quiere extenderlo, esta limitación nunca estaba en el acuerdo con May y el EU siempre decía que NUNCA iba a re negociar el acuerdo con Boris…. Si esto lo encuentras un “Bajada de Pantalones” , vale, pero en vuestro lugar yo no estera tan ansioso a afirmar que es una bajada de los pantalones de Boris
Brexit era la saga de una inevitable ruptura.
Ahora estamos viendo como se va definir el relación futuro entre el UK y el EU , visto muchos comentarios estos últimos días en Burbuja.info esta claro que reina la desconocimiento sobre las opciones y como va desarrollarse la construcción del relación futura entre el UK y el EU, sobre todo en cuanto a como el UK va reaccionar ante los distintos propuestas del EU.
Ahora , si prefieres quedarse en vuestro mundo sin entender el posición del UK y retroalimentarse de los prejuicios y repruebo hacia el UK de los quien sueltan comentarios como “””Un español que critica a los anglos es buen español””” efectivamente me puedo quedar en casa, en fin de cuentas, yo ya he conseguido lo que mas quiere.
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