Switzerland vs Spain: safety, prices and noise under scrutiny

Spain records 48 crimes per 1,000 inhabitants compared to 60 in Germany and 42 in the Netherlands: a Spaniard's account in Bern reignites the debate over what is the…

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Switzerland vs Spain: safety, prices and noise under scrutiny
The day Switzerland becomes Spain's uncomfortable mirror

A Spaniard living in Bern listed what he sees daily: pavements without chewing gum, impeccable roads, rows of premium cars, no one shouting in the street and police who approach as soon as someone asks for a coin. From this he drew a conclusion that has fuelled 445 responses: Spain is a developing country. The conversation, started over three years ago, has not died. It continues to revolve around three uncomfortable questions: whether Spanish safety stands up to comparison, how much of Swiss order is a myth and where, truly, Swiss wealth comes from.

What a Spaniard newly arrived in Bern sees

The list from the author of the post is concrete: safety at any hour, no antiestéticar of holding your phone; infrastructure without litter or stuck chewing gum; premium cars in 90% of what you come across; absence of protests, power cuts and internet outages; prices that don't change from one day to the next. He adds that people are friendlier and that he sees no altercations in the street. The portrait is based on experience, not statistics, and that's where the cracks begin.

A resident of a valley near Gstaad dampens the enthusiasm: people are "strange", everything is extremely expensive and prices strain any household budget. Another neighbour from Thun says he saw one police van all week and attributes order to fines and local character, not to suffocating surveillance. Perceived safety, he implies, is a tax paid in discipline.

Is Spain an unsafe country compared to Switzerland?

The hardest figure in the conversation comes from the Interior Ministry: Spain records around 48 crimes per 1,000 inhabitants per year, compared to 42 in the Netherlands and 60 in Germany. On that basis, argues the person who provides it, Spanish safety is not a problem in comparative terms and the newcomer's account describes a specific neighbourhood, not a country.

The counter-argument doesn't use figures, it uses scenes. Some recall three drunk men smashing bins and windows in a Swiss station for half an hour without a police officer appearing. And some respond with the domestic mirror: two decades in a normal Madrid neighbourhood, one single blackout, caused by construction work, resolved in a couple of hours. The tug-of-war between official rate and anecdote remains open.

The fine print of paradise: washing machines, balconies and rifles

Swiss order carries rules that don't appear in tourist brochures. Years ago, recalls a participant, you couldn't use the washing machine on any day you wanted: there were assigned days for laundry and a private washing machine in multi-family buildings was, at the very least, debatable. Hanging clothes on the balcony, forget it.

Add to that the most disconcerting detail: every man keeps a rifle at home and military service is compulsory — or was, clarifies the one telling it. In an apart-hotel in Zurich, instructions warn in German, French, Italian and English that the washing machine programme must finish before 22:00, the hour of silence. The washing machine is also in a storage room convertible into a nuclear shelter.

150 francs for fare-dodging on the tram

One of the most repeated anecdotes sums up the model: a young Spaniard is detained on a tram without a ticket and the police look for another Spaniard to act as interpreter for an hour. The fine, 150 francs. And a warning translated on the fly: without a name and address, a flight to Madrid that same afternoon. Without paying, the Confederation effectively closes its doors.

It's not the only scene of administrative treatment. Another story tells of an officer who accompanied a lost driver to his car and, when the driver mentioned he had kept a gold ounce for ten years, replied that in another ten years he would still have his ounce. Monetary stability, told on a pavement.

Where does Swiss wealth come from? Two stories that don't touch

Here the conversation splits. One sector maintains that the country lives off high-tech companies whose knowledge competitors have not matched, and that this moat is the real advantage. Another sector attributes it to decades of foreign capital and financial opacity. The two theses coexist without reconciling and neither relies on figures.

Meanwhile, the most shared classification circulates: first world for Switzerland, Iceland, Luxembourg or Singapore; third world for France, Germany, the United States, the United Kingdom and Spain; fourth for Argentina, Mexico, Russia or Turkey. The reply comes quickly: the United States is not one country, it's several at once, and the first and the fifth can fit on the same map.

Incivility as a cultural alibi

The point where the analysis gets stuck is not economic, it's cultural. Against the excuse that noise, dirt and bad manners are part of the Mediterranean character, the response is blunt: education has no latitude. And at the same time it's admitted that excessive Swiss civility, that silence at 22:00 and that rule for everything, also has something uncivil about it.

With these ingredients, the question no one closes is another: whether Swiss wellbeing can be copied or only imported. No one has managed to define exactly what development measures. Perhaps because the answer discomforts both sides of the border.

Summary of a discussion on Burbuja.info - Foro de economía, actualidad y política., translated from Spanish and reviewed before publication. Read the full discussion (445 replies).

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