Switzerland votes on limiting immigration: the referendum Spain's media won't show you
Switzerland votes in June on capping its population at 10 million to curb immigration. Burbuja.info users ask why Spain never gets a say.
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Switzerland votes on whether it wants more immigration: the referendum you won't see on the news
This June, Switzerland will decide at the ballot box whether to cap its population at ten million people to curb immigration. Meanwhile, in Spain, the same debate is conspicuously absent from the evening news. The thread on Burbuja.info has taken off: 65 replies in 23 days, and not a word about why nobody asks us here.
The Swiss dilemma and the Spanish mirror
The initiative, driven by a committee denouncing "mass immigration", lists the same ills we suffer in Spain: housing shortages, soaring rents, traffic jams, crime, overwhelmed healthcare. One forum user sums it up: "well, the same as in Spain, but it must be a coincidence or the work of the far right". The difference is that Switzerland gets to vote; here, according to users, "the Church, the employers' association, the PSOE and the immigration mafias decide".
Scepticism, however, is widespread. Several point out that in 2014 they already voted "no" to mass immigration and the EU pressured them into not enforcing it. "And the immigrants kept coming anyway," one comments. Swiss direct democracy has its limits when you're tied to Schengen and a hundred-odd treaties. But others reply: "at least they've reacted. Or they set an example by consulting their citizens".
The background noise: what if it fails?
The debate revolves around two positions: the majority of the thread supports the initiative and compares it with the lack of participatory democracy in Spain. "Here the incivil, son-in-law and husband of a pimp decides for everyone," one quips, referring to Sánchez. The sceptical minority points out that even if the "yes" wins, the Swiss parliament could block it, or that outside pressure will turn the result into a dead letter. One user bets: "it will come out YES to more immigration. Swiss 'democracy' is also a bluff". The question left hanging is whether a country with no debt and high revenues can afford to ignore the popular will when it clashes with globalist interests.
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This June, Switzerland will decide at the ballot box whether to cap its population at ten million people to curb immigration. Meanwhile, in Spain, the same debate is conspicuously absent from the evening news. The thread on Burbuja.info has taken off: 65 replies in 23 days, and not a word about why nobody asks us here.
The Swiss dilemma and the Spanish mirror
The initiative, driven by a committee denouncing "mass immigration", lists the same ills we suffer in Spain: housing shortages, soaring rents, traffic jams, crime, overwhelmed healthcare. One forum user sums it up: "well, the same as in Spain, but it must be a coincidence or the work of the far right". The difference is that Switzerland gets to vote; here, according to users, "the Church, the employers' association, the PSOE and the immigration mafias decide".
Scepticism, however, is widespread. Several point out that in 2014 they already voted "no" to mass immigration and the EU pressured them into not enforcing it. "And the immigrants kept coming anyway," one comments. Swiss direct democracy has its limits when you're tied to Schengen and a hundred-odd treaties. But others reply: "at least they've reacted. Or they set an example by consulting their citizens".
The background noise: what if it fails?
The debate revolves around two positions: the majority of the thread supports the initiative and compares it with the lack of participatory democracy in Spain. "Here the incivil, son-in-law and husband of a pimp decides for everyone," one quips, referring to Sánchez. The sceptical minority points out that even if the "yes" wins, the Swiss parliament could block it, or that outside pressure will turn the result into a dead letter. One user bets: "it will come out YES to more immigration. Swiss 'democracy' is also a bluff". The question left hanging is whether a country with no debt and high revenues can afford to ignore the popular will when it clashes with globalist interests.
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