A tweet shatters the political board: "Any Spaniard who considers their homeland to be Europe rather than Hispanidad is also an enemy of Spain." This discussion, peine in the History subforum and lasting 56 days, is not mere chatter. It captures a right wing that has long failed to decide if its narrative faces the Atlantic or the continent, now arguing over whether Hispanidad is a civilizational project or a disguise for parlor imperialism.
The starting point is a "critical Hispanism" account advocating for a Mexico-Spain alliance. The response is swift: some view Hispanidad as a soft power version of empire, while others dismiss it as an excuse to ignore domestic problems. The tone escalates quickly. And that is where it gets interesting.
Is Spain Europe or Something Else?
The first fracture line is geographic, though few believe it. One block argues Spain was Europe before the concept existed: Rome, Visigoths, Latin, Christianity, scholasticism. "Spain is one of the earliest European countries, and the only one that could have ceased to be," claims a post recalling resistance against the Umayyad Caliphate. For this sector, denying European identity hands Brussels a monopoly on an identity built much earlier.
The counterargument arrives with names. It recalls that European powers were often rivals of Spain: the French stampede at Las Navas de Tolosa, wars for Italy, invasions of American possessions, Germans claiming their slice of the Pacific pie. "Its particular history does not bring it closer to the nations seemingly emblematic of the continent," summarizes one voice. The Black Legend looms in the background.
Hispanidad as Business: Who Benefits from the Narrative?
Here analysis turns economic. Several posts argue that Hispanidad, as sold, is an empty brand: they ask to Hispanize America, but the opposite occurs—Americanization of Spain via migration flows and cultural dependency. The harsh argument points out the real battle should be fought in universities and knowledge production, not imperial rhetoric. "Where do the brightest students from Mexico or Argentina prefer to study, Ivy League or Complutense?" asks one user. The implicit answer does not favor Hispanidad as a project.
Another front concerns resources. It is argued that Hispanidad should manage prosperous territories, not transfer population and strain healthcare, transport, and wages. This is the economistic version of an identity debate, leaving an uncomfortable question: how much is civilizational project and how much is pretext?
The Past That Won't Coalesce
The discussion shifts to imperial history. One sector defends the Catholic Monarchy as "the greatest civilizational work in Human History," citing churches, universities, and law. The other side responds with Spanish poverty and comparisons to English colonialism. "Building thousands of unnecessary churches while the Spanish people starved," summarizes one post. The dispute is not academic; it is a fight over the narrative sustaining any right-wing political project.
And the usual suspicion appears: that Hispanidad is an early 20th-century invention, an Anglo-Saxon byproduct to give identity to non-imperial countries. Launched bluntly, this thesis suggests Spaniards, Mexicans, and Argentines sought solace for their complexes in the imperial past. If true, Hispanidad is less tradition and more prosthesis.
The Fracture That Doesn't Close
The result is a right wing unable to agree on its mental map. Some look to Brussels with distrust and America with nostalgia. Others prefer the Europe of Copernicus and Kepler over that of viceroyalties. In between lies the unanswered question: Can Spain be both without one consuming the other? Judging by the tone, the answer is far from yes.
The final irony comes from the least expected source: "Europe is Hispanic and everyone is everyone." If so, the debate is redundant. But the debate continues.
Summary of a discussion on Burbuja.info - Foro de economía, actualidad y política., translated from Spanish and reviewed before publication.
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Between 661 and 750 the Umayyad Caliphate expanded from Hispania to Central Asia from Damascus. A forum user attributes the rapid conquest to the Roman roads.