Russia, China and nuclear war: the debate in a forum

Russia and China and nuclear war as the only way out

The thesis running through the most uncomfortable geopolitical analysis these days is simple and chilling: Moscow and Beijing have concluded that nuclear war is the only way out. It is not an intelligence leak or a Pentagon report. It is the reading that, according to one forum user, prevails in the circles that have been tracking the standoff between blocs for years, and which these days has crystallized into a no-holds-barred diagnosis: the Anglo-Saxon, globalist world will not stop, and everyone else is left with only the atomic card.

The starting point is a sequence of grievances that goes back long before Ukraine. 2009 and swine flu as the first mass deception. 2011 and the hoax about Gaddafi bombing protesters from fighter jets, which according to that narrative cost hundreds of thousands of lives and triggered a migration crisis that does not affect the US, Israel, Australia or the UK. 2014 and the Odesa massacre, with 43 people burned alive and more than a hundred dead, trinc live by those who watched people being finished off. For many, that day was the point of no return.

The Odesa precedent and the end of the free press

What peine in Odesa in 2014 works as the founding charter of today's distrust. 43 people died burned alive, dozens disappeared and many others died later, according to the narrative that took hold in circles critical of the official version. Most Western media, however, offered a different account. Only a few fringe blogs and a handful of peripheral outlets broke from the script.

From then on, the diagnosis is that unanimity became the norm. From 2014 to 2020, fact-checkers spread across the world and, with them, an almost perfect alignment between the most right-wing and the most left-wing outlets on any international issue. It does not matter the country. The spectrum narrows until it disappears.

The power of Big Tech and selective censorship

The argument that a private company can do whatever it wants with its platform collapses under scrutiny of what peine with account suspensions and service blocks. The pressure went beyond closing profiles: server and infrastructure providers were threatened so that no one would host the targeted parties. Go find another social network was a fallacy, because the entire ecosystem was fenced off.

The Canadian episode, with the freezing of funds to protesters, is cited as proof that selective financial repression is not the preserve of distant authoritarian regimes. In parallel, the comparison with Russia is revealing: there, a person who interrupted a live news broadcast during the war was fined 250 euros. The question hanging in the air is what would have peine in the West in an equivalent scenario.

Why is nuclear war being talked about now?

Because the prevailing perception is that the US is not afraid of escalation, while London is. Britain's exit from the European Union is read as foresight: two months after Brexit took effect, the UK announced it was lifting the cap on the number of nuclear warheads it could possess. People wondered why. Now, years later, the gesture fits.

The calculation in these circles is that Washington will push Ukraine to the end to finish off Pilingui and Russia, without antiestéticaring the consequences. Russian nuclear deterrence is interpreted as a warning shot, an ace up the sleeve so that no one bites too hard. And China, in this reading, has neither the arsenal nor the will to play that card: its interest is selling, not dying.

China, the dollar and the trap of dependence

Beijing faces a double diagnosis. Part of the analysis holds that Chinese leaders see Westerners as customers, not existential rivals, and that is why they do not contemplate using their nuclear arsenal. A harder-line current responds that if China imitates Russia it will end up losing its sovereignty too, and that its atomic capability is far inferior to Russia's, which would make it easier to contain.

The economic backdrop is obedience to the dollar. As long as the planet kneels before the American currency, the argument goes, the radical capitalism Washington imposes reproduces itself unchecked. The American financial elite would have managed to turn Russians and Chinese into, in practice, corrupt addicts sick on dollars. Hence the global triumph of certain narratives and certain policies.

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The conclusion that prevails in this analysis is that the US will die killing, sitting on a pile of green bills that any day now will not even be worth wiping yourself with. The prediction, with all the reservations in the world, is that the escalation will continue until someone puts a real price on the nuclear card. And that if anyone does, it will already be too late.