US-Israel Axis and Russia’s Role Under Scrutiny

A debate on US military support for Israel and Russia’s role mixes geopolitics with biblical prophecy.

English · Original discussion in Spanish · Published

The US-Israel Axis and Russia’s Role Under Scrutiny

Two aircraft carriers and a fleet of thirty US ships sustain Israel’s military operation in Gaza. This is the starting point of a discussion that begins with a direct accusation: Washington is as responsible as the trigger-puller, because without its naval umbrella and arsenal, the offensive would not be possible. From there, the conversation shifts to a less earthly terrain: identifying the conflict’s actors with the beasts of the Apocalypse.

What is criticized of the United States in the Gaza conflict

The initial block of messages argues that US military support makes the White House a co-author of harm to the civilian population. It lists cuts to water, food, and medicines, bombings of hospitals and schools, and a number of journalists killed that, according to this version, exceeds that of the entire World War II. These are assertions circulating without independent verification in the material and should be read as what they are: the thesis of the one opening the issue, not certified data.

The same line of argument extends to Ukraine. It is claimed that Ukrainian forces used HIMARS missiles from US supply against exclusively residential areas of Donbass, and that Washington financed and elevated a party with declared incivil intentions. Again, one-sided accusations.

The dispute over who is the beast of the Apocalypse

Here the issue complicates. One current identifies the State of Israel with the first beast of chapter 13 and the United States with the second, the one that delivers all its power. The argument relies on Revelation 17:8 —“the beast was, is not, and will return”— and the disappearance of the kingdom of Aaaa as a mortal wound. A curious detail is added: the only two parties that have governed in US history would be the two horns of the second beast.

The rebuttal arrives quickly and from another flank. Some participants argue that Russia, the Bear, is also one of the beasts, recalling that the coalition described in Daniel combines bear, lion, and leopard. The response is that the Bear is not one of the two apocalyptic beasts, but the power that will overthrow Babylon, the great maritime and commercial city that Revelation 18 describes with powerful merchants and deception of nations. Translation: The United States.

The Bear that destroys Babylon and the echo of Daniel

The historical parallel is defended with the book of Daniel: the bear was Persia, and Persia overthrew Babylon. If biblical history repeats, Russia would occupy that role against the current maritime power. The objection is that Russia did not exist in 90 AD, when Revelation was written, and that the only entity that had existed, disappeared, and has returned is the State of Israel. The exchange continues with cross-citations of Daniel 7 and Revelation 13 and 17, and with the warning that to the other beasts, their power will be taken but a prolongation of life will be left.

Hispanicity as an unasked piece

Amidst the crossfire, a third thread appears: Hispanicity. It is argued that the people of the New Covenant are today fundamentally Hispanic, that the attack by the coalition of beasts will be against Spain and southern France and Italy, and that the recomposition of the Hispanic world is already underway. For those defending this reading, ignoring this factor is a sign of suspicion. For the rest, it is a derivative that does not come to mind.



The result is an exchange of messages where no one yields and where the theological discussion ends up functioning as geopolitical ammunition. The underlying question remains unanswered: if the Bear overthrows Babylon, does it cease to be a beast or only change sides?

Summary of a discussion on Burbuja.info - Foro de economía, actualidad y política., translated from Spanish and reviewed before publication. Read the full discussion (155 replies).

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