Forum Debates Alleged Coup by Spanish Security Forces

Forum Debates Alleged Coup by Spanish Security Forces

Will there be a coup d'état in Spain? This question periodically resurfaces in digital forums, recently launched with unusual confidence by an initial message: "Remember what I say; I will revive this thread as events unfold. I have reliable sources I cannot reveal." The author, presenting themselves as someone with privileged information, argues that the movement will not come "from the PSOE side or the right," but from the Guardia Civil (Civil Guard) and the Army, claiming there is already "an unstoppable murmur of security forces and army who are fed up."

The thread asserts that special units of the Policía Nacional (National Police) and Guardia Civil "are brutal, containing the best of the country" and are "moving their pieces slowly, step by step." As a sign that something is brewing, the author points out that the UCO (Central Operational Unit) "is going after the Prime Minister himself" and that this is "just a glimpse of what is coming."

The Forum's Response: Skepticism and Mockery

The majority reaction has not been one of agreement. One participant responds sarcastically: "Where are the proofs of this alleged plot? Or are they just your wishes?" Another mocks the operation's viability: "You 'reaccionariopobres' [poor fascists] can't even hold eye contact with a dark-skinned person on the street... and you're going to stage a coup against the established pogre power."

Skepticism is not limited to the left. A veteran of the forum states: "As much as I would love to see something of that caliber, I must tell you that I antiestéticar nothing like that will happen. We have been reading and opining exactly the same thing in this sacred forum for YEARS and still nothing happens." They add an argument dismantling the military coup thesis: "All commands are appointed by hand and bought. I would only see antiestéticasible a lone wolf operation ending in suicide."

The Argument of Military Submission

The most repeated objection is that the Armed Forces and Security Forces are not an autonomous actor. "The military are at NATO's orders and happy about it; the rest—politicians, businessmen, judges—are those who live this democracy and the people do whatever TV says," claims a message. In the same line, another participant recalls that "during the pandemic they willingly agreed to scare the public; during the Valencia floods no one had the guts to leave the barracks and put at the disposal of the people what belongs to the people."

Some go further, arguing that Spain lacks real sovereignty: "The army and other regime lackeys are under the orders of the globalist/NATO/Euro-shit regime. If you haven't realized yet that HEZpaña [Spain] doesn't have even the slightest own sovereignty, I think you are very lost." The conclusion they draw is that if there were a coup, it would be "trinc USA-Globalist orders and not precisely for the benefit of Spaniards."

The Economic Factor: Civil Servants with Mortgages

Against the epic narrative of the pronunciamiento, the material argument appears: military personnel are civil servants. "I have family members who are senior officers and know many officers; these people are civil servants and won't lift a finger. They won't risk their €2700 salary, definitely," affirms a message. This is the "grateful stomach" thesis: those with a payroll, assignment, and pension plan do not jeopardize their position for a power grab.

Another participant insists on the same idea: "there is a large mass of grateful stomachs and many people would have to die, and that today does not hold up." The implicit question is who would be willing to sacrifice themselves for a regime change when the personal cost is extremely high.

Alternative Theories: False Flag

Among the most valued messages appears a different hypothesis: that the coup would not come from the right, but would be a false flag operation by the Government itself. "The only coup d'état that can occur is a false flag orchestrated by Sánchez to have the excuse and perpetuate himself in power," argues a message. Another develops it: "It seems they are preparing the narrative to do the opposite, that the far-right was preparing a coup d'état and therefore we do it first, we democrats."

The discussion also drifts toward the role of the UCO and justice. A message points out that "the UCO is acting suspiciously" and another recalls Article 1 of the Guardia Civil code: "Honor must be the main badge of the Guardia Civil; therefore, he must preserve it without stain. Once lost, it is never recovered."

International Context and Institutional Wear

The thread is not limited to the Spanish case. It mentions the geopolitical context and the perception that institutions are overwhelmed. A message notes that "in ten years half of the military and the rabble are migrants," a claim unsupported by data. Another points to the lack of investment in defense: "Spanish armament must be rusted beyond belief... We are going to end up like Russia with Stone Age weapons."

The feeling of system exhaustion runs through the thread. "Shameful and disgraceful things are seen," writes a participant recounting a scene of homelessness in a central street of Zaragoza. The conclusion for many is that discontent exists, but finds no institutional or military outlet.

What Will Happen? Open Forecast

The author of the initial message remains firm: "Just wait a bit and you will see; we are going to see big things in Spain, those events where you know how they start, but not how they end." No date or proof is given. The community, largely, does not believe them. A message summarizes the general sentiment: "Changing everything so that nothing changes is the motto. But the reality is that we face 4 years of crap if the handsome guy falls."

The discussion remains open. Those who want to know if the forecast comes true will have to wait. Meanwhile, the thread stays there, with its mix of rumor, institutional distrust, and skepticism. As one participant says: "In ten years half of the military and the rabble are migrants. The coup will be given to you."

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Key Data of the Debate

• The initial message claims the movement would come from the Guardia Civil and Army, not from political parties.
• One participant argues that officers will not risk their €2700 salary.
• It is mentioned that the UCO is investigating the Prime Minister.
• One message defends that the only possible coup would be a false flag by the Government itself.

Frequently Asked Questions

What is the UCO and why is it mentioned in the debate?
The UCO is the Central Operational Unit of the Guardia Civil, responsible for investigating serious crimes. In the thread, it is claimed that it is acting against the Prime Minister as a legal attempt which, according to the author of the initial message, serves to gather information and use it later.

Is there any proof of the alleged coup d'état?
No. The initial message provides no proof and merely states that it has reliable sources that cannot be revealed. Participants responding criticize precisely this lack of evidence. It is an assertion without verifiable backing.

What do military personnel think according to the thread?
The majority opinion is that the military will not move. Arguments state that they are civil servants with stable salaries, that commands are appointed by hand, and that they will not risk their careers. Their dependence on NATO and political orders is also highlighted.