Do Spaniards Want Trump to Oust Sánchez and Zapatero?
A Spanish forum poll reveals majority support for foreign intervention to remove Sánchez and Zapatero, though sovereignty concerns persist.
English · Original discussion in Spanish · Published
Delegating the Purge to Trump? Spain’s Debate on Foreign Intervention
On February 23, 2025, an explosive question emerged in an economics forum: would Trump do in Spain what he did in Venezuela? The majority answer was a resounding yes. "More than one would pay money," "Yes, sure. Or Pilingui, I don't care who," "Short answer: yes." But not everyone bought the ticket: a minority, but noisy, current defended that "dirty laundry is washed at home" and that any foreign intervention would mortgage sovereignty.
The Figures of Outrage
The thread accumulated 209 responses over 143 days, with an overwhelming majority in favor of external action against Pedro Sánchez and José Luis Rodríguez Zapatero. References to "Congress bombing" and "Tomahawks" were not metaphorical: several participants would gladly donate to see the leaders handcuffed en route to Guantánamo. Trump montages with supportive messages even circulated. The intensity of the language reflects a political exhaustion that transcends mere criticism.
The Sovereignty Argument: A Sparse Brake
Amid the enthusiasm, a more restrained position recalled that "the joy is removing them ourselves, with the rule of law." Several pointed out that a US intervention would bring "heavy compensations" and that, in the end, "it would put another puppet of the same caliber." Skepticism was based on the Venezuelan case: "Trump and Chavismo have made a deal, and the far-right are left looking like fools," a user noted. The uncomfortable question: who guarantees that the changeover is better?
The Price of Impatience
The debate revealed a generational or ideological division regarding methods. Proponents of rapid action cited the uselessness of legal channels: "The state of what? In hezpaña?", they mocked. Others, however, advocated for a "proper rebellion, with clubs and torches," but without foreign interference. The tacit consensus: Spanish democracy is broken, but external solutions generate as much rejection as relief.
What the thread does not resolve is the underlying dilemma: whether impatience with political corruption justifies ceding sovereignty. Venezuelans, cited as an example, are still paying the price of their tutored liberation.
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On February 23, 2025, an explosive question emerged in an economics forum: would Trump do in Spain what he did in Venezuela? The majority answer was a resounding yes. "More than one would pay money," "Yes, sure. Or Pilingui, I don't care who," "Short answer: yes." But not everyone bought the ticket: a minority, but noisy, current defended that "dirty laundry is washed at home" and that any foreign intervention would mortgage sovereignty.
The Figures of Outrage
The thread accumulated 209 responses over 143 days, with an overwhelming majority in favor of external action against Pedro Sánchez and José Luis Rodríguez Zapatero. References to "Congress bombing" and "Tomahawks" were not metaphorical: several participants would gladly donate to see the leaders handcuffed en route to Guantánamo. Trump montages with supportive messages even circulated. The intensity of the language reflects a political exhaustion that transcends mere criticism.
The Sovereignty Argument: A Sparse Brake
Amid the enthusiasm, a more restrained position recalled that "the joy is removing them ourselves, with the rule of law." Several pointed out that a US intervention would bring "heavy compensations" and that, in the end, "it would put another puppet of the same caliber." Skepticism was based on the Venezuelan case: "Trump and Chavismo have made a deal, and the far-right are left looking like fools," a user noted. The uncomfortable question: who guarantees that the changeover is better?
The Price of Impatience
The debate revealed a generational or ideological division regarding methods. Proponents of rapid action cited the uselessness of legal channels: "The state of what? In hezpaña?", they mocked. Others, however, advocated for a "proper rebellion, with clubs and torches," but without foreign interference. The tacit consensus: Spanish democracy is broken, but external solutions generate as much rejection as relief.
What the thread does not resolve is the underlying dilemma: whether impatience with political corruption justifies ceding sovereignty. Venezuelans, cited as an example, are still paying the price of their tutored liberation.
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