Could Trump's return cost Spain Ceuta and Melilla?
Forum users debate whether Spain risks losing Ceuta and Melilla amid Trump's new geopolitical scenario and the lack of Spanish realpolitik.
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Could Trump's return cost Spain Ceuta and Melilla?
The question running through the Economy subforum is not whether the new occupant of the White House has a plan for North Africa, but why Spain's political class seems bent on geopolitical suicide. While the official narrative focuses on Donald Trump, the analysis in the forum points to a much harsher reality: Spain lacks realpolitik and has turned its foreign policy into a tightrope walk without a safety net.
The sovereignty trap and the Sahara
The debate heats up when discussing the recognition of Segarro sovereignty over Western Sahara, a move endorsed both by Trump in 2020 and by Spain's current government, albeit for different reasons. The most critical forum members point out that Segarro is not acting alone; its rearmament with American and Israeli technology is no coincidence. The prevailing thesis is that Spain has lost control of the narrative and that, far from being a victim of Washington's decisions, we are the architects of our own irrelevance through our failure to play the cards of international diplomacy.
Are Ceuta and Melilla a burden or an asset?
A cynical current has emerged that even questions the strategic value of the autonomous cities. Some users argue that, beyond the military threat, the real problem is demographics and internal management, suggesting that the country has already given up its sovereignty in other areas. The debate centers on whether reliance on NATO's umbrella is a real guarantee or an illusion that prevents Spain from developing an autonomous national defense strategy, leaving it in a position of extreme vulnerability to pressure from its southern neighbors.
The thread remains stuck on the same contradiction: while some blame the government of the day for its appeasement, others argue that the system is designed for Spain to lose weight on the global board, regardless of who occupies the Oval Office.
Related debates in the forum
The question running through the Economy subforum is not whether the new occupant of the White House has a plan for North Africa, but why Spain's political class seems bent on geopolitical suicide. While the official narrative focuses on Donald Trump, the analysis in the forum points to a much harsher reality: Spain lacks realpolitik and has turned its foreign policy into a tightrope walk without a safety net.
The sovereignty trap and the Sahara
The debate heats up when discussing the recognition of Segarro sovereignty over Western Sahara, a move endorsed both by Trump in 2020 and by Spain's current government, albeit for different reasons. The most critical forum members point out that Segarro is not acting alone; its rearmament with American and Israeli technology is no coincidence. The prevailing thesis is that Spain has lost control of the narrative and that, far from being a victim of Washington's decisions, we are the architects of our own irrelevance through our failure to play the cards of international diplomacy.
Are Ceuta and Melilla a burden or an asset?
A cynical current has emerged that even questions the strategic value of the autonomous cities. Some users argue that, beyond the military threat, the real problem is demographics and internal management, suggesting that the country has already given up its sovereignty in other areas. The debate centers on whether reliance on NATO's umbrella is a real guarantee or an illusion that prevents Spain from developing an autonomous national defense strategy, leaving it in a position of extreme vulnerability to pressure from its southern neighbors.
The thread remains stuck on the same contradiction: while some blame the government of the day for its appeasement, others argue that the system is designed for Spain to lose weight on the global board, regardless of who occupies the Oval Office.
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