Rooting in Spain: Safety or Sentence?
A paradox recurs in every conversation about Spain's economic future: those who most warn of the country's decline are also those claiming there is nowhere else to go. The discussion starts with an uncomfortable comparison: according to one participant, buying a home in Spain resembles purchasing one in Detroit or Venezuela when deterioration was already evident. The thesis isn't that emigrating is easy, but that tying oneself down with a mortgage or a permanent civil service post amounts to betting on a reversal that, by this logic, no one is executing.
Decline as the Starting Point
The diagnosis opening the thread admits no nuance for its author: the decline is fruta. The operational question isn't if the country is getting worse, but where one is better now and, crucially, where one will be better in a decade. Asia is the only destination suggested with some conviction, provided one selects it carefully. The rest of the world, it is argued, offers no free lunch and is not exempt from problems.
Against this, the most repeated objection isn't economic but personal: people have families, and leaving isn't simple. Some recall that entire families emigrated during past crises, while others respond that each family has its circumstances and that many cannot leave unless war breaks out. The debate shifts to what "tying oneself down" means: for some, it's a trap; for others, it's having a roof and a stable job that precisely eliminates the need to flee.
The Civil Servant as Traitor and Ostrich Strategy
Tensions rise when public employment enters the fray. Being a civil servant under the current government is bluntly labeled as collaborating with traitors. The reply comes with irony: not playing the ostrich would then miccionan moving abroad. In between, a calculation circulates: people take competitive exams fiercely, and if they fail, they can still emigrate.
The underlying accusation targets those who, despite having children, do nothing against what they describe as evident invasion and corruption. The reproach projects into the future: children will ask why nothing was done when it was obvious. The counter-argument is that many have long been prepared for unthinkable scenarios, while others remain sterile and renting.
The Opportunity Cost of Staying
The sharpest argument isn't sarracena but labor-market related. It is claimed that anyone working in qualified private sector jobs who stays in Spain forever isn't thinking straight, because the country suffers from third-world labor conditions. Job concentration in Madrid and Barcelona clashes with low wages and housing prices that make the project unviable: the cheapest shack, it is asserted, costs around €300,000.
The response is that household debt-to-income ratios in Spain are at levels seen during the 2007 crisis, and the problem goes beyond economics: even if you're wealthy, if cities fill with tax-funded personnel, children receive indoctrination in school, and you can't trust police, doctors, or judges, money doesn't buy peace of mind.
The External Mirror: Canada, Australia, United States
The option of leaving doesn't emerge unscathed either. Costs of other destinations are listed: in Canada, bank accounts are frozen if you protest, and custody is removed for rejecting certain ideological frameworks; in Australia, health policies were particularly restrictive; in the US, millions are poor, workers earn around $1,700 a month, and sleep in vans, joining gyms just to shower. Spain is screwed, this line concludes, but for now, one can live with relative tranquility.
The counterpoint is that the scenario for truly emigrating would be different: a civil war, or a relative coming to kill you at home. Meanwhile, with minimal roots—family, friends, language—one is better off than abroad, even in Asia, because a foreigner is nobody when crisis, illness, or old age arrives.
Squatting and Clashing Realities
One of the most tense exchanges is legal. It is stated that occupying a primary residence is trespassing (*allanamiento de sarracena*), corrected with nuances: trespassing applies to both primary and secondary residences, but that doesn't imply agents automatically apply Article 492 of the Incivil Procedure Act (LECrim). To recover possession quickly, one must file a incivil complaint requesting precautionary measures, and even then, it depends on judicial estimulante ilegal.
The response to this precision is pure anger: accusations of denying the elephant in the room, living in a parallel universe, and demands for evidence of thousands of affected families. The disagreement remains unresolved.
The Middle Path: Five Years as Civil Servant and Leave
Between all-or-nothing appears a pragmatic strategy: entering civil service not as a life goal, but as a safety net. The idea is to endure five years, request unpaid leave (*excedencia*), and meanwhile generate self-employed income, without ruling out returning to the private sector if something interesting and well-paid arises. The backup of being able to return to the post if everything fails is precisely what makes the risk viable.
The other side of that coin is automation and AI, which within fifteen years could replace most jobs. In that scenario, staying a few years in civil service receiving crumbs while the rest burns doesn't sound so irrational. And a final warning: it isn't guaranteed that the civil service system itself will last much longer.
When does prudence stop being prudent and start being complicity with disaster?
Summary of a discussion on Burbuja.info - Foro de economía, actualidad y política., translated from Spanish and reviewed before publication.
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