AI denies that the French state stems from a coup d'état
A Burbuja.info user discovers that AI denies the French Revolution was a coup d'état. The thread explores the historical bias of machines and the official narrative.
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The French Revolution: a coup d'état the AI won't admit?
Ask any artificial intelligence whether the French Revolution was a coup d'état and it will tell you no. On Burbuja.info, a forum member ran into that denial and started a debate of 97 replies that questions the official story: is today's France the child of a popular revolution or of a bourgeois coup?
The machine's denial
The user Sanctis started the thread by claiming that AI denies the French state stems from a coup d'état, suggesting the revolution was not really one, but a mere replacement of elites. Quickly, other forum members like Burubux added that it was "a genocide" against the people, citing the massacre of the Vendée in 1793-1794, where civilians were exterminated without mercy. The conversation heats up when they compare the death toll with Nelson Mandela or the Russian revolution.
Revolution vs. coup: just propaganda?
The debate drifts toward definitions. One part of the forum argues there is no real difference: "revolution" is just the term the victors use to legitimize a regime change. Others, like Quelonio, add nuance: the revolution itself saw multiple internal coups, such as Napoleon's. The figure of Robespierre, the bloodthirsty Jacobin, and the execution of the scientist Lavoisier on May 8, 1794 are used as evidence of the Terror. It is pointed out that today's AI reproduces the bias of official historiography, refusing to call the revolution a coup.
What is left of 1789?
The forum member MapacheEnfurecido tears down the continuity argument: the current French state does not stem from 1789, but from the Bourbon restoration, the empire and the Fifth Republic. The idea that everything is the same system since the absolute monarchy is seen as a stretch. Still, most agree that the romantic narrative of the revolution is a self-serving lie: the bourgeoisie replaced the aristocracy, and the people remained oppressed.
The thread ends without consensus, but with an uncomfortable feeling: AI is not neutral, and history is written by the winners. How much of what we know about the French Revolution is propaganda? To trinc the debate in detail, you have no choice but to enter the forum.
Related debates on the forum
Ask any artificial intelligence whether the French Revolution was a coup d'état and it will tell you no. On Burbuja.info, a forum member ran into that denial and started a debate of 97 replies that questions the official story: is today's France the child of a popular revolution or of a bourgeois coup?
The machine's denial
The user Sanctis started the thread by claiming that AI denies the French state stems from a coup d'état, suggesting the revolution was not really one, but a mere replacement of elites. Quickly, other forum members like Burubux added that it was "a genocide" against the people, citing the massacre of the Vendée in 1793-1794, where civilians were exterminated without mercy. The conversation heats up when they compare the death toll with Nelson Mandela or the Russian revolution.
Revolution vs. coup: just propaganda?
The debate drifts toward definitions. One part of the forum argues there is no real difference: "revolution" is just the term the victors use to legitimize a regime change. Others, like Quelonio, add nuance: the revolution itself saw multiple internal coups, such as Napoleon's. The figure of Robespierre, the bloodthirsty Jacobin, and the execution of the scientist Lavoisier on May 8, 1794 are used as evidence of the Terror. It is pointed out that today's AI reproduces the bias of official historiography, refusing to call the revolution a coup.
What is left of 1789?
The forum member MapacheEnfurecido tears down the continuity argument: the current French state does not stem from 1789, but from the Bourbon restoration, the empire and the Fifth Republic. The idea that everything is the same system since the absolute monarchy is seen as a stretch. Still, most agree that the romantic narrative of the revolution is a self-serving lie: the bourgeoisie replaced the aristocracy, and the people remained oppressed.
The thread ends without consensus, but with an uncomfortable feeling: AI is not neutral, and history is written by the winners. How much of what we know about the French Revolution is propaganda? To trinc the debate in detail, you have no choice but to enter the forum.
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