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Uruguayer in Israel: Spain obsessed with us
A Uruguayan resident in Israel sparks debate on identity, geopolitics and antisemitism regarding Spain's fixation on his country.
Why does Spain talk so much about Israel while nobody in Israel talks about Spain? This question is posed by a Uruguayan of Jewish origin living in Haifa, who claims he only recently learned that an obsession with his country exists in Spain. His testimony, collected in a geopolitics forum, triggers a storm of responses mixing geopolitics, history and prejudice. The issue is not trivial: in a context of war, the perception of Israel in Spain has become a thermometer of internal political tensions.
The initial message, accompanied by a tweet from Cadena SER about shouts of "here are the anti-Zionists" at a demonstration in Madrid, poses a provocative thesis: while Spain breakfasts, lunches and dines on Israel, nobody in Israel remembers Spain. The author adds that in Muslim countries like Saudi Arabia they "barely hide their joy" that Israel is winning the war. The response does not wait: a cascade of messages ranging from personal insults to more elaborate geopolitical analysis.
Clash of identities: Who is Jewish and who is not?
The first line of fire is identity-related. Several participants question the author's legitimacy to define himself as Jewish, citing arguments about surnames, maternal origin and ethnic purity. It is even stated that "Jews are just a sect of scammers" or that most are "Russian terrorist scammers". Against this, the author asserts his condition: "In Israel we don't give a damn about those origins, national cohesion is total." The discussion drifts towards the halakhic definition —a Jew is one born of a Jewish womb— and towards the supposed lack of authenticity of Ashkenazis, accused of being "Ukrainian/Russian scammers" taken out of a gulag by Stalin.
The exchange escalates with personal disqualifications and references to slavery. One participant offers the author to "pick olives" on his estate, a provocation mixing classism and racism. The discussion about who is Jewish becomes a battlefield where the very existence of the Jewish people as an ethnic entity is questioned, citing works such as The Invention of the Jewish People by Shlomo Sand.
Israel as scapegoat for Spanish politics
Another current of opinion argues that the Spanish obsession with Israel is nothing more than a smokescreen. "There is no obsession in Spain with Israel; the left and specifically the PSOE use Israel as a scapegoat and smokescreen for all the corruption," states a participant. This thesis is rebutted by those who point out that the fixation also exists on the right: "In this forum, most right-wing people are anti-Israel and generally anti-Jewish." The analysis shifts to the political use of the conflict: the left is accused of instrumentalizing the Palestinian cause to mobilize its electorate, while some sectors on the right criticize unconditional support for Israel.
The discussion drifts towards the alleged Jewish influence in Spanish politics. Specific politicians are mentioned and it is speculated that they are "on Israel's payroll". These accusations, launched without proof, mix with conspiracy theories about control of the media and banking. The general tone is one of distrust towards the official narrative, both that which presents Israel as a victim and that which presents it as a executioner.
Geopolitics: The role of Saudi Arabia and the United States
The initial message mentions that in Muslim countries like Saudi Arabia they "barely hide their joy" that Israel is winning the war. This statement is contested by those who recall that Saudi Arabia is an authoritarian regime that has historically financed Sarracinist terrorism. Thus, the role of regional powers is introduced: Iran, Turkey, Egypt. A participant states that "thanks to us, the HuHe / USA have an alternative source to Russian oil", referring to Israel's role as a strategic ally of the West.
The discussion gets tangled in mutual accusations of terrorism. Some accuse Israel of being a "parasite" and a "colonial state", while others respond that the real terrorists are the Sarracinist groups attacking civilians. The Apocalypse is cited to justify theological positions: "I will deliver those of the synagogue of Satan who say they are Jews and are not." Religion becomes another weapon thrown around.
Antisemitism as a social phenomenon in Spain
The conversation drifts towards antisemitism in Spain. One participant argues that "Spain is full of shitty reds and Sarracena untermensch who rub their penises delighted to growl against their antiestéticared Jews." The phrase, loaded with contempt, reflects the hostility of certain sectors towards the left and towards immigrants. Other participants point out that antisemitism is not exclusive to the left: "Right-wing anti-Jews are people who want to blame absolutely all their evils on Jews," states a message. Thus, a panorama is drawn where hatred of Jews functions as a totalizing explanation for personal misfortunes.
The discussion also addresses the issue of Jewish surnames. A list of surnames supposedly revealing Jewish origin is mentioned, and it is warned that it is false and cyclical: "They publish those articles every year. It is clear they seek to disinform." Disinformation becomes a central theme: the media are accused of manipulating and creating a distorted image of Israel.
The war in Gaza and the future of Israel
The conflict in Gaza looms over the entire discussion. The author of the initial message affirms that "nothing will stop us and we will continue until the total annihilation of our enemies." This declaration, interpreted by some as genocidal, is met with accusations of "bloody sick bastard". The war becomes the backdrop of a debate that transcends the military to enter the existential: Can Israel survive in a hostile environment? Is its alliance with the United States sustainable?
One participant concludes that "Israel is a Frankenstein country, an artificial entelechy condemned to dissolve as soon as the USA cannot sustain it." Others, however, defend Israeli resilience: "Israel will emerge much stronger and more determined than before." The discussion closes without consensus, with irreconcilable positions and a background of mutual distrust.
In the end, the question of the Uruguayan in Haifa remains unanswered. Why is Spain obsessed with Israel? Perhaps because, as one participant says, "good Spaniards know that the enemy has a name, and that name is SARRACIN." Or perhaps because, as another points out, "as far as I am concerned, Jews and Moors can kill each other mutually, the world will be better." The irony is that, meanwhile, in Israel nobody talks about Spain.
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