Orriols in Madrid: Mirror of Aliança Catalana

A forum user demands a party like Aliança Catalana for Madrid, the independentist formation of Silvia Orriols that only runs in Catalonia.

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Orriols in Madrid: Mirror of Aliança Catalana
Voting for Orriols in Madrid: The desire already existing in Catalonia

The demand exists and so does the paradox. There are those calling from Madrid for a party like Silvia Orriols's, the leader of Aliança Catalana, while at the same time that party cannot be voted for there: it only runs in Catalonia and its banner is independence. It asks to import a project whose identity consists, precisely, of being Catalan.

The complaint is directed mainly against the Spanish right, which one participant considers insufficient. The idea of replicating the model with a own formation in Madrid works as a wish hypothesis, not as an available electoral option. And the mirror held up to Vox reflects, depending on how you look at it, a virtue or a warning.

What is Aliança Catalana and why it is not voted for in Madrid

Aliança Catalana is a Catalan independentist formation led by Silvia Orriols. Its scope of action is Catalonia, so the ballot paper does not exist in the Community of Madrid. That is where everything starts: the desire to replicate it clashes with the fact that its raison d'être is Catalan and sovereignist.

The 2023 election results appear as an argument that the project is not a utopia of a bar counter. The formation has been gaining weight in the Catalan political space, and those who defend transferring the model claim it demonstrates that there is available vote that others do not capture.

The clash with Vox: The proposal Aliança did not support

In the Parliament of Catalonia, a proposal by Vox to stop immigration and the distribution of unaccompanied minors was voted on. As emphasized, Aliança Catalana did not vote in favor. The detail is used to doubt the coherence of Orriols' project against its own postulates.

Against this, the inverse argument rises: a formation that does not govern can afford to present apparent or directly impossible proposals, and voting against them does not equate to rejecting the underlying objective. With that reasoning, it is defended that Aliança's no is not a contradiction, but a calculated position.

Girona, thermometer and exaggeration

The province of Girona concentrates much of the discussion. A publication spread on social media qualified that territory as the most fascist region in Western Europe since 1945 and described 10 of its 17 deputies with a derogatory far-right label. It is a political assessment, not an electoral data point, and should be read as such.

Others hold the opposite view: that the advance of Aliança Catalana in Girona reflects a real vote, growing and threatening rivals' seats. The conversation also drifted towards personal episodes, such as the urgent selection process convened in Ripoll for a local police position in which Orriols' daughter would have participated, without any firm conclusion having been drawn from it.

What the voter wants and what the system offers

The core of the complaint is not a specific party. It is the repeated sensation that none of the existing options say what that voter wants to hear without nuances. Hence the pull of a discourse that does not ask for permission.

If that gap is real and large, someone will occupy it in Madrid sooner or later. If it is a Catalan echo without possible translation, the complaint will remain just that. Neither of the two things can be taken for granted yet.

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