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Preparo las palomitas para el drama, llantos y rechinar de dientes. 😀
Se veia venir: Las autoridades de EEUU intervienen dos cuentas al mayor operador de Bitcoin
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Pués será que la gente aún está durmiendo, o que la noticia es intrascendente, para la estabilidad del Bitcoin, porque la cotización no ha variado para nada,he visto rumores en el Trollbox de Btc-e que han movido más la cotización que esta noticia
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Es que quien tenga pasta ahi es simple, vaya
Ya se que soy un pardillo por que no me queda otra que tener euros en el banco, pero es que no me queda otra, sin embargo ni borracho meteria pasta en un bitcoin de esos.
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Ya se que soy un pardillo por que no me queda otra que tener euros en el banco, pero es que no me queda otra, sin embargo ni borracho meteria pasta en un bitcoin de esos.
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Hasta le da legitimidad y todo...
Denaar
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El Bitcoin es una inversion mas, con su muy alto riesgo claro esta, pero de ahi a llamar simple a cualquiera que quiera invertir en Bitcoin, es hablar demasiado.
Yo inverti unos 2000 euros en dos ordenadores hace unos meses y a día de hoy puedo decir, y muy orgulloso, que mi inversion esta pagada y encima, cuando el Bitcoin cotizo a 200 euros saque otros 2000 euros mas. Mala inversion ???? Yo creo que no.
Podría haberla defecado?? Si, como con cualquier otra inversion. Pero antes de gastarme un céntimo, leí y releí miles de foros, comentarios buenos y muy malos acerca del Bitcoin, es decir me informe, algo que mucha gente no se ha dignado ni ha hacer, con un simple "esto es una engaña " lo arreglan todo.
Mi premisa es, tanto generan los ordenadores , tanto se vende y en cuanto se vende , se va derechito a mi cuenta del banco ( esos si que son buenos y dan unos intereses de agallas) . Hay días que se gana más y hay días que se gana menos, pero eso si nunca especulo con mi producción y NUNCA, NUNCA, NUNCA, NUNCA tengo mis fondos en un exchanger, siempre en una billetera off-line o en dinerito en los bancos (nuestros verdaderos amigos).
Si tradeais con Bitcoins o con cualquier otra moneda, tarde o temprano nos pillamos los dedos y de ahi el recelo que tiene todo dios con el Bitcoin.
Coin que? al 3'25%? o ING al no se que por cierto si cambia la foto? Se quejan del sistema bancario y os recomendais depósitos?
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perdón se me corto el resto del mensaje:
Coin que? al 3'25%? o ING al no se que por cierto si cambia la foto? Se quejan del sistema bancario y os recomendais depósitos? y cuando sale algo fuera de ese sistema lo ponen a parir sin apenas conocer el tema?
Pueden creer en bitcoin o no, pueden invertir en bitcoin o no, pero faltar al respeto por desconocimiento no es justo.
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Que si, que si....venga august...completa tu firma con el bitcoin desde el 2009 y comparalo con todo el resto 😀
En el foro más de uno va en freeride con el bitcoin....:
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Ojalá mi broker me dejase hacer trading denominado en bitcoins.
Sobre todo ahora que las divisas FIAT son una artefacto artefacto peligroso de relojería. :Aplauso:
Sobre todo ahora que las divisas FIAT son una artefacto artefacto peligroso de relojería. :Aplauso:
MrMonedas
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Si los usanos quieren acabar con ella ... lo harán. No se preocupen. Métodos no les van a faltar.
Alba_00
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¿A alguien se le obliga a invertir en BTC? No. Pues dejadnos en paz a los que sí lo hacemos. No sé si somos más gilipilas que quienes siguen manteniendo su dinero en el banco con intereses ridículos. Allá cada cual con sus manías.
En cuanto a que si los yanquis quieren hundirlo lo harán, pues veamos, igual va y resulta que no cambiar btc por dólares nos hace un favor. Lo peor que le puede pasar a cualquier negocio es que un norteamericano se meta en él, porque es darle excusas a su gobierno para que descerraje su artillería contra cualquiera.
Fuera de los EE.UU. yo no admitiría a ninguno. Que especulen allí, inviertan allí y nos dejen en paz al resto del mundo.
En cuanto a que si los yanquis quieren hundirlo lo harán, pues veamos, igual va y resulta que no cambiar btc por dólares nos hace un favor. Lo peor que le puede pasar a cualquier negocio es que un norteamericano se meta en él, porque es darle excusas a su gobierno para que descerraje su artillería contra cualquiera.
Fuera de los EE.UU. yo no admitiría a ninguno. Que especulen allí, inviertan allí y nos dejen en paz al resto del mundo.
Ulisses
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Karpeles (Hebrew: קרפלס) is a surname, and may refer to.....¡¡¡¡remonster¡¡¡¡¡¡¡
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a mi lo de KARPELES me suena al padre apeles, o algo de eso....:fiufiu:
The Department of Homeland Security is investigating Mt. Gox, the largest Bitcoin exchange, for abusa laws on US money exchange and money transfers—and it's grabbing the exchange's money in the process.
DHS officials refused to comment on the ongoing investigation, but they did provide a copy of the warrant that was used yesterday to seize funds that Mt. Gox had in Dwolla, a money transfer service. Dwolla is a Des Moines, Iowa company that provides one of the most popular ways to move US dollars to Mt. Gox, where they can be used to buy bitcoins.
In the warrant, a special agent with Homeland Security Investigations (HSI), states that there's probable cause to believe Mt. Gox is engaging in "money transmitting" without a license, a crime punishable by a fine or up to five years in prison. The warrant goes on to demand that Dwolla hand over the keys to account number 812-649-1010, which is owned by Mt. Gox subsidiary Mutum Sigillum LLC, and held in the custody of Veridian Credit Union.
The funds in that account "are those of Mt. Gox customers that withdraw said funds from Mt. Gox and direct their transfer to Dwolla."
Homeland Security used a confidential informant, based in Maryland, to conduct the investigation. The informant simply created accounts with Dwolla and Mt. Gox, bought bitcoins, and then changed them back into dollars. Tracing that money, HSI was able to see that the money passed through a Wells Fargo account, number 7657841313, which was created by a single authorized signer: Mark Karpeles, the president and CEO of Mt. Gox. The Dwolla account shows transfers to Dwolla going back to at least December 2011, according to the warrant.
The special agent then explains what appears to be the smoking gun: Karpeles specifically denied he was going to get into the currency exchange business. The warrant reads:
As part of the account opening process, Wells Fargo required Karpeles and Mutum Sigillum LLC to complete a "Money Services Business (MSB) Accounts, Identification of an MSB Customer" form. That document was completed on May 20, 2011 and identified Mutum Sigillum LLC as a business not engaged in money services. The application asks several questions; to include, "Do you deal in or exchange currency for your customer?" and "Does your business accept funds from customers and send the funds based on customers' instructions (Money Transmitter)?" Karpeles answered these questions "no," indicating that Mutum Sigillum LLC does not deal in or exchange money, and that it does not send funds based on customer instructions.
Money transmitting businesses are required by 31 USC section 5330 to register as such with FinCEN. According to FinCEN records on May 6, 2013, neither Mt. Gox nor the subsidiary, Mutum Sigillum LLC, is registered as a Money Service Business.
The agent then gives a brief description of how Mt. Gox deals in the "crypto-currency" of Bitcoin:
Mt. Gox acts as a digital currency exchange where customers open accounts and fund the respective accounts with fiat currency, which is then exchanged into crypto-currency by Mt. Gox; the crypto-currency is known as bitcoin. Fiat currency simply refers to any money that a government has declared to be legal tender. The exchange is bidirectional and allows customers to also exchange bitcoins back into fiat currency, and then withdraw those funds. The exchange of fiat currency and bitcoins incurs a floating rate fee charged by Mt. Gox and is determined by the customer's aggregate amount of funds exchanged on a monthly basis.
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The Department of Homeland Security is investigating Mt. Gox, the largest Bitcoin exchange, for abusa laws on US money exchange and money transfers—and it's grabbing the exchange's money in the process.
DHS officials refused to comment on the ongoing investigation, but they did provide a copy of the warrant that was used yesterday to seize funds that Mt. Gox had in Dwolla, a money transfer service. Dwolla is a Des Moines, Iowa company that provides one of the most popular ways to move US dollars to Mt. Gox, where they can be used to buy bitcoins.
In the warrant, a special agent with Homeland Security Investigations (HSI), states that there's probable cause to believe Mt. Gox is engaging in "money transmitting" without a license, a crime punishable by a fine or up to five years in prison. The warrant goes on to demand that Dwolla hand over the keys to account number 812-649-1010, which is owned by Mt. Gox subsidiary Mutum Sigillum LLC, and held in the custody of Veridian Credit Union.
The funds in that account "are those of Mt. Gox customers that withdraw said funds from Mt. Gox and direct their transfer to Dwolla."
Homeland Security used a confidential informant, based in Maryland, to conduct the investigation. The informant simply created accounts with Dwolla and Mt. Gox, bought bitcoins, and then changed them back into dollars. Tracing that money, HSI was able to see that the money passed through a Wells Fargo account, number 7657841313, which was created by a single authorized signer: Mark Karpeles, the president and CEO of Mt. Gox. The Dwolla account shows transfers to Dwolla going back to at least December 2011, according to the warrant.
The special agent then explains what appears to be the smoking gun: Karpeles specifically denied he was going to get into the currency exchange business. The warrant reads:
As part of the account opening process, Wells Fargo required Karpeles and Mutum Sigillum LLC to complete a "Money Services Business (MSB) Accounts, Identification of an MSB Customer" form. That document was completed on May 20, 2011 and identified Mutum Sigillum LLC as a business not engaged in money services. The application asks several questions; to include, "Do you deal in or exchange currency for your customer?" and "Does your business accept funds from customers and send the funds based on customers' instructions (Money Transmitter)?" Karpeles answered these questions "no," indicating that Mutum Sigillum LLC does not deal in or exchange money, and that it does not send funds based on customer instructions.
Money transmitting businesses are required by 31 USC section 5330 to register as such with FinCEN. According to FinCEN records on May 6, 2013, neither Mt. Gox nor the subsidiary, Mutum Sigillum LLC, is registered as a Money Service Business.
The agent then gives a brief description of how Mt. Gox deals in the "crypto-currency" of Bitcoin:
Mt. Gox acts as a digital currency exchange where customers open accounts and fund the respective accounts with fiat currency, which is then exchanged into crypto-currency by Mt. Gox; the crypto-currency is known as bitcoin. Fiat currency simply refers to any money that a government has declared to be legal tender. The exchange is bidirectional and allows customers to also exchange bitcoins back into fiat currency, and then withdraw those funds. The exchange of fiat currency and bitcoins incurs a floating rate fee charged by Mt. Gox and is determined by the customer's aggregate amount of funds exchanged on a monthly basis.
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Ingrata! Se preocupan por los demás!!