What happened to me yesterday with the Guardia Civil, LAWYERS NEEDED!!!
A driver reports that the Guardia Civil (Spanish paramilitary police) searched him and his car without any signage over three CBD cigarettes, legal in Spain. Skepticism and debate ensue.
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Search without signage: the day the Guardia Civil stopped a driver over suspicion of legal hierba
A resident of a private housing estate reports that four Guardia Civil officers pulled him over without warning, searched his vehicle and subjected him to a body search that included contact with his genitals. The apparent reason: three CBD cigarettes, a substance legal in Spain. The story has generated skepticism and raised concerns about the limits of police action.
A checkpoint with no protocol
According to his account, the patrol was waiting at the roundabout leading into the estate. When they saw the driver, four officers got out of the car and ordered him to stop, with no cones or checkpoint signage in place. They asked for his name and, immediately afterwards, one said "we've got him". They searched the boot, the floor mats and the glove compartment, where they found three CBD cigarettes. Even though CBD is legal, the officers carried out a full body search, touching the driver's genitals over his clothes.
Legality of CBD and false positives
CBD (cannabidiol) is a permitted substance in Spain, as long as its THC content does not exceed 0.2%. However, some products may contain traces that test positive on drug tests. Laboratories can detect THC up to 0.3%, and the police usually rely on the quantitative positive result, not the legal threshold. This opens the door to unfair penalties. In this case, there is no record of any test being carried out on the driver.
Suspicions of a false report or prior surveillance
Many commenters doubt the truthfulness of the account. They point out that it is unusual for four officers to travel in a single vehicle and to act without signage. Others suggest the man may have been under surveillance because of his links to the forum or previous complaints against law enforcement. The man himself acknowledges that his neighbours are Spanish Air Force officers, which could have triggered alerts. However, there is no evidence that the action was unlawful.
The question that remains up in the air is whether the Guardia Civil acted proportionately and within the law. Meanwhile, the man affected says he will seek legal advice, although several users warn him about how hard it is to challenge the presumption of truthfulness granted to officers.
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A resident of a private housing estate reports that four Guardia Civil officers pulled him over without warning, searched his vehicle and subjected him to a body search that included contact with his genitals. The apparent reason: three CBD cigarettes, a substance legal in Spain. The story has generated skepticism and raised concerns about the limits of police action.
A checkpoint with no protocol
According to his account, the patrol was waiting at the roundabout leading into the estate. When they saw the driver, four officers got out of the car and ordered him to stop, with no cones or checkpoint signage in place. They asked for his name and, immediately afterwards, one said "we've got him". They searched the boot, the floor mats and the glove compartment, where they found three CBD cigarettes. Even though CBD is legal, the officers carried out a full body search, touching the driver's genitals over his clothes.
Legality of CBD and false positives
CBD (cannabidiol) is a permitted substance in Spain, as long as its THC content does not exceed 0.2%. However, some products may contain traces that test positive on drug tests. Laboratories can detect THC up to 0.3%, and the police usually rely on the quantitative positive result, not the legal threshold. This opens the door to unfair penalties. In this case, there is no record of any test being carried out on the driver.
Suspicions of a false report or prior surveillance
Many commenters doubt the truthfulness of the account. They point out that it is unusual for four officers to travel in a single vehicle and to act without signage. Others suggest the man may have been under surveillance because of his links to the forum or previous complaints against law enforcement. The man himself acknowledges that his neighbours are Spanish Air Force officers, which could have triggered alerts. However, there is no evidence that the action was unlawful.
The question that remains up in the air is whether the Guardia Civil acted proportionately and within the law. Meanwhile, the man affected says he will seek legal advice, although several users warn him about how hard it is to challenge the presumption of truthfulness granted to officers.
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