What exactly do Spain's far-right forum users want?
A thread on Burbuja.info, Spain's leading economic forum, pits users against each other over the right's goals. Remigration? Privatizations? Data and mutual accusations fly.
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What do the reactionaries want? The debate tearing Burbuja.info apart
The thread opens with an uncomfortable fact: the sale of 3,500 public housing units in Madrid for 4 pesetas to vulture funds, with Ana Botella convicted. That is the starting point for a forum user who bluntly asks what the "PP and Vox supporters" want beyond selling off public assets cheaply, bringing in submissive immigrants and inheriting wealth tax-free. The thread is not a debate: it is a trench.
The accusation: crony capitalism and structural corruption
User pepitogruñon pulls no punches: in his view, the Spanish right only wants to privatize airports, roads and healthcare, and fill the country with docile immigrants while fortunes are inherited untaxed. He backs his thesis with a news item from FACUA (a Spanish consumer rights group) about the conviction of Ana Botella and her team over the sale of public housing. He also recalls that Aznar's PP pushed through the immigration law, and criticizes Vox for now proposing remigration after previously voting the other way. For him, the right is a incivil organization that has dismantled the welfare state.
Other users, such as NateHiggers, try to smooth things over: "if no party is any good, they're winding us up so we turn on each other". But most take sides without nuance.
The answer: identity, security and sovereignty
On the other side, forum users like EXTOUAREG lay out an explicit program: forced remigration of 10 million people, housing construction after the "hollowing out of Spain", reindustrialization, a ban on abortion, exit from the euro and the EU, and an end to environmental policies. The priority is national identity and security. germanalca sums it up: "if I want to see Chinese people, I'll move to China; mixing is dangerous". Meanwhile, RC1492 openly defends fascism as the "natural leader" against a democracy of sheep.
The clash is total. When pepitogruñon defends Sánchez's record (minimum wage, minimum living income), he is accused of living off benefits or being a bot. The conversation descends into mutual insults and accusations of manipulation.
The conspiratorial twist
User Republicano introduces a theory that gains traction: many of the pogre users are bots created by the forum's AI to stir up anger and generate traffic. Even the official bot burbubot joins the debate to debunk the paranoia, but the damage is done. Some believe the thread is a setup.
The thread has racked up 69 replies in 23 days with barely any new arguments. Each side repeats its mantras: some point to the sale of public housing and corruption; others, to the migration invasion and the loss of sovereignty. Where is the common ground? Nowhere to be found in the thread.
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The thread opens with an uncomfortable fact: the sale of 3,500 public housing units in Madrid for 4 pesetas to vulture funds, with Ana Botella convicted. That is the starting point for a forum user who bluntly asks what the "PP and Vox supporters" want beyond selling off public assets cheaply, bringing in submissive immigrants and inheriting wealth tax-free. The thread is not a debate: it is a trench.
The accusation: crony capitalism and structural corruption
User pepitogruñon pulls no punches: in his view, the Spanish right only wants to privatize airports, roads and healthcare, and fill the country with docile immigrants while fortunes are inherited untaxed. He backs his thesis with a news item from FACUA (a Spanish consumer rights group) about the conviction of Ana Botella and her team over the sale of public housing. He also recalls that Aznar's PP pushed through the immigration law, and criticizes Vox for now proposing remigration after previously voting the other way. For him, the right is a incivil organization that has dismantled the welfare state.
Other users, such as NateHiggers, try to smooth things over: "if no party is any good, they're winding us up so we turn on each other". But most take sides without nuance.
The answer: identity, security and sovereignty
On the other side, forum users like EXTOUAREG lay out an explicit program: forced remigration of 10 million people, housing construction after the "hollowing out of Spain", reindustrialization, a ban on abortion, exit from the euro and the EU, and an end to environmental policies. The priority is national identity and security. germanalca sums it up: "if I want to see Chinese people, I'll move to China; mixing is dangerous". Meanwhile, RC1492 openly defends fascism as the "natural leader" against a democracy of sheep.
The clash is total. When pepitogruñon defends Sánchez's record (minimum wage, minimum living income), he is accused of living off benefits or being a bot. The conversation descends into mutual insults and accusations of manipulation.
The conspiratorial twist
User Republicano introduces a theory that gains traction: many of the pogre users are bots created by the forum's AI to stir up anger and generate traffic. Even the official bot burbubot joins the debate to debunk the paranoia, but the damage is done. Some believe the thread is a setup.
The thread has racked up 69 replies in 23 days with barely any new arguments. Each side repeats its mantras: some point to the sale of public housing and corruption; others, to the migration invasion and the loss of sovereignty. Where is the common ground? Nowhere to be found in the thread.
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