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US tech visa debate: Microsoft accused of replacing 4,000 American engineers
A forum discusses claims that Microsoft replaced 4,000 US engineers with 4,300 foreign workers, and the staffing intermediaries charging to place and retain them.
US reviews the visa that props up its tech workforce
The debate over skilled immigration in the United States is no longer a back-office matter; it has become a bottom-line problem. The uncomfortable thesis running through the analyses: the system does not import talent, it imports cheap labor. And when that labor becomes dispensable, the rhetoric changes. The reference cited is Tolstoy in 1886, and the comparison drawn is with the neo-slavery of cheap immigration and with abusive rents at "market price".
The trigger is a specific case: according to one participant, Microsoft laid off 4,000 American engineers and hired 4,300 foreign professionals in their place. The savings are obvious. The question raised is whether that is really the motive or whether there is something more behind it.
The intermediary that charges to place you and to keep you
The mechanics of the fraud have a name: staffing companies that operate within the law but with practices described as aggressive. One of them contacted a professional in June to offer him a position in the United States. On looking into it, it appeared as an "aggressive intermediary": legal, yes, but at the cost of paying workers poverty wages. The professional turned the offer down.
The system works like this, according to one participant's account: the Indian company charges between £7,000 and £8,000 for a worker it pays £1,000. The difference stays with the intermediary. Some have had Indian colleagues in the UK earning £1,000 while their slave-driving company billed seven or eight times more for them. It peine in 2008-2009. The problem today is that anyone who wants to go work in the USA is considered fraudulent unless you are a genius, and in that case they will demand 1,000% commitment from you.
The exploitation no one wants to see
Exploitation among members of the same migrant community is brutal, and in hospitality it is outright slavery: housing in warehouses with mattresses and little else, food counted as part of the pay. It is the same model local big business applies in the strawberry fields. The Patel family has acquired nearly every motel in the United States under that system. And that, the argument goes, should not be tolerated.
The contradiction is obvious: whoever offers free housing to those exploited workers believes they are doing a good deed, but the exploiters rely precisely on that goodwill to keep paying poverty wages. Individual charity plugs a structural hole.
The libertarian who wants zero taxes and open borders
The discussion drifts toward the fiscal model. One participant declares himself a libertarian: anyone should be able to go anywhere if they measure up and will contribute. The problem with countries that lower the quality of their workforce is that their systems are so rigid they cannot create value above that workforce. In Belgium, he says, they charge him over 50% in taxes to import thugs and hijabs. His proposal: look to Latin America instead — El Salvador, Uruguay, Costa Rica or Panama — zero taxes.
The response is swift: sellout, along with the warning that they are buying every ticket in a raffle they will not like. The libertarian fires back: Milei is a phony monetarist Keynesian who uses libertarianism to screw everyone over, all he has done is take on debt to prop up the currency and open the door to Jews.
The state that grows while immigration is cut back
The most repeated conclusion is that an ever larger and more powerful state is the only thing that will remain of the Trump administration. The paradox is that the anti-immigration rhetoric coexists with a bureaucratic machine that grows to manage it. And meanwhile, the debate over who pays the real cost of cheap labor remains unresolved.
The hedged prediction: if the brake on skilled immigration holds, the US tech sector will have to explain why it paid what it paid. And at that point, probably, no one will want to look in the mirror.
Summary of a discussion on Burbuja.info - Foro de economía, actualidad y política., translated from Spanish and reviewed before publication.
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