Rock as ideological label: new cultural filter

Forum debate questions if Iron Maiden is NOM or anti-NOM. Users reject classifying music by ideology, noting the criteria are arbitrary.

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Rock as ideological label: new cultural filter
Rock as an ideological brand: the new cultural filter

A paradox recurs in discussions on identity and cultural consumption: those who reject the globalist order argue over whether Iron Maiden is NOM or anti-NOM. The debate starts with a direct provocation—"Is there anything more NOM than pop/rock music?"—and the answer comes from the most unexpected flank: heavy metal. One participant sums it up bluntly: "I'm big on heavy metal. I was at an Iron Maiden concert in Murcia on the 20th. Does that count?" The original poster's reply is unequivocal: "Of course it counts. Heavy metal is rock."

What does NOM miccionan and why apply it to music

In this context, NOM labels everything perceived as aligned with the globalist, proge, or institutional order. Applied to music, it creates a classification labyrinth that participants themselves recognize as arbitrary. One message illustrates this with sarcasm: "And you use internet, a NOM invention created by the US Army and overrun by globalist multinationals, instead of communicating via carrier pigeons." This reductio ad absurdum makes clear that the criterion cannot withstand even minimal rigorous analysis.

Classification becomes even more confusing when personal tastes enter the picture. Some declare listening to "mountain songs, and occasionally some ranchera. Music for identity-obsessed elites." Another responds with an image capturing the absurdity: "I can already imagine you in a big black SUV with 24-inch chrome rims, low profile, bling hanging from your neck, cap backwards, window down, arm hanging out like a Bronx gangster, blasting... Castilian jota."

Heavy metal as an identity refuge

The trend claiming metal as a genre allied with the anti-NOM cause has its own argument. It asserts that "from the 70s/80s onwards, Metal became much whiter. The jazz and blues base was abandoned in favor of Irish folk and classical music." This thesis mixes musicology with identitarianism and is, at best, debatable: metal draws from blues as much as folk, and its history is full of cross-influences.

Enthusiasm for the genre extends to concerts. One participant recounts their experience with Iron Maiden in Murcia, while another emotionally recalls Mötley Crüe in Madrid: "Damn, I cried watching MOTLEY CRUE in Madrid... they were great, totally anti-proge." The association between rock and supposed cultural resistance repeats itself, though no one explains exactly what is anti-NOM about an eighties Californian band.

Classical music and the ideological filter

The classical flank has its own rules. One participant declares: "Classical music and Castilian jotas. Total Anti-NOM." Another replies: "Anything other than listening to Wagner makes you a red." This witticism summarizes the drift of the criterion: any musical preference can become a political statement if forced enough.

Things get complicated when an orchestra conductor's name appears. "Kubelick is Jewish. Obviously he is NOM," states one message. The response trinc quickly: "Is Rafael Kubelik, saying he won't conduct Wagner, NWO?" The exchange shows how far the NOM label is applied to specific people based on origin, turning a discussion about taste into something quite uncomfortable.

Doubts about the classification criteria

The most repeated stance rejects the entire exercise. One participant puts it clearly: "It seems a bit silly. Ideology has nothing to do with the music you listen to." Another adds: "If you like music, you like music. How far you go likely depends on what you listened to when you were younger and more open." The idea that musical tastes define political position is dismantled by a simple argument: most people don't understand English lyrics, so they hardly subscribe to their messages.

Some go further, pointing out the underlying contradiction: "It must be exhausting living like that. The USSR surely represents the opposite of my political views. But I find its anthem truly wonderful." The conclusion is that filtering everything through politics impoverishes the cultural experience and contributes nothing to public debate.

Cultural consumption as tribal thermometer

Beyond rock, the catalog of tastes appearing in the conversation maps generations. Some only listen to "a TDK tape of Spice Girls greatest hits," others declare themselves trance fans, some prefer "classical and old-school stuff like Julio Iglesias and Luis Miguel," and others simply state "rock is pure satanism." This variety disproves any binary classification.

The sharpest irony comes from the anthems flank: "I only listen to Horst Wessel Lied in the morning and Erika before bed. Top that." Beyond bad taste, this witticism highlights the absurdity of competing for ideological purity through playlists.

The lingering question is whether anyone truly believes this labeling game or if, as many suspect, it is just another way to mark territory in a cultural trench where music matters least.

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