Life in Russia: Doctor in five days and electricity for 146€ a year
What does it cost to live in Russia, and what does a taxpayer get in return? The account from Moscow begins with an average 13% tax rate, rising to 15% for higher incomes, and a medical appointment granted on the fifth day. Around this scene—a neighborhood health center with sofas, waiting screens, and free water—unfolds an uncomfortable comparison with Spain mixing bills, operating theaters, and life expectancy.
Public healthcare in Moscow: five-day appointment and fourth-day surgery
The center’s description is meticulous: absolute cleanliness, children’s play areas, changing tables, water dispensers, screens showing the queue and assigned doctor, and a café where coffee costs 80 rubles, about 0.8 euros. Restrooms, they assure, are clean enough for use without hesitation. Silence, they say, is the norm: no one shares their life story in the consultation room.
The strong point is punctuality. Everything works with prior appointments, preventing walk-ins and reducing wait times to a quiet moment. The other side is the access filter: centers serve registered residents with legal residency, which the narrator defends as the direct cause of non-saturated waiting rooms.
The personal case accompanying the account involves gallbladder surgery within public healthcare: diagnosis, three days of hospitalization to reduce inflammation, surgery on the fourth day, and discharge three days later. The comparison made is with a Madrid appointment requested online taking 17 days.
Cost of electricity, water, and trash in Moscow
The second block of the account is purely accounting. An expat in Moscow calculated their annual bill for electricity, heating, cold and hot water, and trash collection at 146 euros per year, with heating automatically running all winter. Against this stands the Spanish trash fee and a 25% increase in a single fiscal year, with overflowing containers.
The item-by-item tariff breakdown turns the comparison into more than an anecdote: it forces one to look at their own bill. And not just that. Housing, hospitality, dentists, or the metro appear as areas pending verification, acknowledged by the narrator with the same ease as the rest.
The other side: 72.5 years life expectancy and 39 tuberculosis cases
The rebuttal arrives with health data discussed in the thread. Official life expectancy in Russia stands, according to these figures, at 72.5 years, with Spanish men living eight years longer. The tuberculosis rate, 39 annual cases per 100,000 inhabitants according to the WHO, and suicide rates 30% higher than in Spain. Some claim around 1.5 million people are HIV carriers and that the country does not distribute antiretrovirals for free as a European Union state would.
Alongside these figures circulates a current of denial regarding HIV and public health campaigns, a thesis lacking scientific backing and unsustainable against accumulated evidence. The rest of the counterattack is of another nature: it is claimed that the described facilities belong to a private center, a point not shared by those publishing the center, who present it as part of Moscow’s public healthcare.
Is there forced recruitment in Russia?
No, according to those living there: there are volunteers because the economic incentive is high. The ad cited for Moscow offers 7.5 million rubles—about 75,000 euros for one year of enlistment, an amount argued to be worth much more in purchasing power than in Madrid. The objection is obvious and also present: little money for those killed or permanently disabled.
Regarding the end of the war, the answer is that it will end with NATO’s surrender and that duration matters little as long as the objective is met. Life in the country, insists the same source, has improved considerably in the last two years.
The detail that disorients both sides remains: some 14 million registered residents in Moscow, around 16 including the unregistered, and an energy bill in Spain that bears no resemblance. Anyone wanting to close the matter with a label will first have to explain why health numbers and bill figures point in opposite directions.
Summary of a discussion on Burbuja.info - Foro de economía, actualidad y política., translated from Spanish and reviewed before publication.
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