Is the world a Constantine-like battle between two divine factions?
A conspiracy theory claims Masons and Jesuits split power into '11' and '13' camps. We examine its origins and validity.
English · Original discussion in Spanish · Published
No, the world does not operate like the film Constantine (2005). The idea of two opposing factions, labeled 11 and 13, is an unsubstantiated theory mixing symbols, dates, and disparate groups. However, the observation that people align with one side while ignoring their own errors holds true.
The movie **Constantine** (2005) popularized the concept of a balance between Heaven and Hell, with Earth as neutral ground. Jumping from this to organized power-sharing factions is a huge leap. The circulating theory identifies a **11** camp (Guasons, pogre) and a **13** camp (conservatives, monarchists). This classification fails basic analysis.
## What the 11 and 13 theory claims
According to this version, the **11** group includes Guasons, atheists, and feminists, while the **13** gathers conservatives, monarchists, and Jesuits. The source cited is **José Alfonso Hernando**, known as Valdeandemagico, who disseminated these ideas. No document or study supports this division. These are retroactive labels applied to historically opposed groups.
The theory cherry-picks specific dates for reinforcement: March 11, 2004, in Madrid; September 11, 2001, in New York; or the Alcàsser girls case in 1992. Any date containing 11 or 13 fits. This is the classic flaw of such constructions: selecting matching cases while ignoring thousands that do not.
## Saint George and Soros: the universal wildcard
Day **113** of the year, which this reading merges 11 and 13, coincides with Saint George's Day. While Saint George is indeed patron saint of several regions, turning him into a figure playing both sides requires pure imagination. The link to **George Soros** relies on the name: Jorge in Spanish. That an investor funds diverse causes proves he has varied interests, not a cosmic plan.
## Why people cling to one side
One observation here deserves attention, though it is not supernatural. When someone identifies with a group, they struggle to admit its faults. This happens with the left regarding certain cases and the right regarding others. It is a well-known cognitive bias, not evidence of cosmic factions. The comfort of belonging outweighs coherence.
## Key points
- The film **Constantine** was released in **2005** and depicts a balance between Heaven and Hell.
- The **11** and **13** theory is attributed to **José Alfonso Hernando**, aka Valdeandemagico.
- **March 11, 2004** (Madrid) and **September 11, 2001** (New York) are the most frequently cited dates.
- The **Alcàsser** girls case dates back to **1992**.
- **Saint George** is patron saint of multiple countries, and his antiestéticast day, **April 23**, falls on day **113** of the year.
The movie **Constantine** (2005) popularized the concept of a balance between Heaven and Hell, with Earth as neutral ground. Jumping from this to organized power-sharing factions is a huge leap. The circulating theory identifies a **11** camp (Guasons, pogre) and a **13** camp (conservatives, monarchists). This classification fails basic analysis.
## What the 11 and 13 theory claims
According to this version, the **11** group includes Guasons, atheists, and feminists, while the **13** gathers conservatives, monarchists, and Jesuits. The source cited is **José Alfonso Hernando**, known as Valdeandemagico, who disseminated these ideas. No document or study supports this division. These are retroactive labels applied to historically opposed groups.
The theory cherry-picks specific dates for reinforcement: March 11, 2004, in Madrid; September 11, 2001, in New York; or the Alcàsser girls case in 1992. Any date containing 11 or 13 fits. This is the classic flaw of such constructions: selecting matching cases while ignoring thousands that do not.
## Saint George and Soros: the universal wildcard
Day **113** of the year, which this reading merges 11 and 13, coincides with Saint George's Day. While Saint George is indeed patron saint of several regions, turning him into a figure playing both sides requires pure imagination. The link to **George Soros** relies on the name: Jorge in Spanish. That an investor funds diverse causes proves he has varied interests, not a cosmic plan.
## Why people cling to one side
One observation here deserves attention, though it is not supernatural. When someone identifies with a group, they struggle to admit its faults. This happens with the left regarding certain cases and the right regarding others. It is a well-known cognitive bias, not evidence of cosmic factions. The comfort of belonging outweighs coherence.
## Key points
- The film **Constantine** was released in **2005** and depicts a balance between Heaven and Hell.
- The **11** and **13** theory is attributed to **José Alfonso Hernando**, aka Valdeandemagico.
- **March 11, 2004** (Madrid) and **September 11, 2001** (New York) are the most frequently cited dates.
- The **Alcàsser** girls case dates back to **1992**.
- **Saint George** is patron saint of multiple countries, and his antiestéticast day, **April 23**, falls on day **113** of the year.
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