Grandfather pays 2,500 euros monthly per grandson to boost birth rates

2,500 euros per month per grandson: the price of having children

Some have turned birth rates into a payroll. One forum participant describes a family where the grandfather pays a lifetime salary for each grandson arriving, 2,500 euros monthly per head. One daughter with four children would earn 10,000 euros monthly from this alone. According to him, they are not the only ones, and such arrangements are more common among upper classes than expected. The reasoning mirrors any family gathering: having children costs money, and those expanding the family deserve compensation. The core question remains: should parents pressure their children to have children?

What happens when there is no intention to have children

The starting point is explicit: a person with young children imagines the day they say they will not provide grandchildren. The response is not resentment, but intervention. They would offer financial help if money is the obstacle and use emotional arguments: "seeing your child's eyes, even if you are half-dead and exhausted, makes it all pass". Described as primal and deeply rooted in human nature, the speaker admits one can live without feeling it but maintains that if there is any doubt, it is worth it. This nuance—doubt, not obligation—is the axis of the debate.

Those who refuse to intervene and speak plainly

A broad current responds negatively. Manipulating someone into having a child they do not want is the most horrible thing in the world, because that person will remember the push when holding an unwanted child. The coldest version suggests persuasion is random, 50/50, and if the child is convinced otherwise, the probability is 100 to 0. Others state they would not try anything, perhaps only asking for reasons. Some recall that families always have singles and that having children is an option, not an obligation.

Alongside this is an intermediate stance: accepting children's happiness "just as if they decide to have a basketball team," warning of the real risk of leaving a child frustrated for life by pressuring them.

The lineage side: great-grandfather photos and inherited duties

Opposing this is the lineage argument. Some illustrate it by showing children photos of great-grandparents, suggesting that family is a legacy and a burden of history made of lives that fought for the chain to continue. From there, the demand emerges: breaking the chain is compared to despising everything that came before. At the extreme, messages present descent as a duty, warning that refusing breaks family ties. Others frame it religiously or as a collective obligation, arguing that fewer births require someone to sustain the relay. Another voice denies this demographic diagnosis, stating Spain would fare better with a smaller population.

"You have children or stop being my son"

Blackmail has its anecdotes. One first-person case involves a father who posed this dilemma, and a son who replied by telling him to go away, with three children of his own, arrived by free decision, not pressure. The conclusion is that blackmail fails and poisons relationships: the father ends up old and alone, he says, and has earned it. The warning repeats with the formula of disinheritance and a boomerang effect warning: insisting on something makes people do the exact opposite.

Two or three generations, and no one remembers you

The coldest counterargument dismantles the epic of legacy. Someone visiting old, abandoned tombs—including pantheons—concludes: in two or three generations, no one will visit your grave, and the dead do not care because they are dead. From there, reproduction loses its historical mission character and becomes what it is: a personal decision with costs and benefits. This current adds that forcing another to live your vital project is not a plan, but an imposition.

Economic incentives, housing, and the role of television

The grandson salary is not the only financial instrument on the table. Some propose a proletarian version: if 2,500 euros monthly is out of reach, offer 150, 200, or 300 euros. Another classic is distributing inheritance based on family size, so the heir with more progeny gets the largest share. Alongside money, some attribute the problem to precariousness and a labor market preventing independence. Some voices even propose TV campaigns praising large families, convinced that screens and media figures shape behavior more than admitted.

No one disputes that having children costs money, time, and sleep. The disagreement begins when someone decides to turn their biography into instructions for their child's. And an uncomfortable question remains unanswered: if the grandson arrives via blackmail, payroll, or exhaustion, whose project was it?