Used Electric Vehicles: Unwanted in Germany Even If Free
German used car dealers have stopped accepting electric vehicles into their inventory, according to the source opening this discussion. It is not a pricing issue: no buyers appear even when vehicles are offered below market value. The second-hand market, which serves as the true thermometer for whether a technology has staying power, has turned its back on battery-powered cars in the very country that championed Europe's transition.
The picture extends beyond Germany. Some argue that the Netherlands is preparing restrictions on electric vehicles, with bans on driving in major cities on the horizon, while Nordic countries face plummeting range in freezing temperatures. The official narrative spoke of unstoppable adoption. Dealership lots tell a different story.
Why Nobody Wants a Used Electric Car
The problem isn't just the sticker price. A used EV carries two uncertainties the buyer cannot resolve: how much life remains in the battery and what it will cost to replace. The battery is both the heaviest component of the vehicle's price and the part most likely to become obsolete quickly. Some estimate an EV can become technologically outdated in barely a year, causing residual value to crash.
To this adds distrust. When buying a used combustion engine car, one checks the motor and belts; when buying an EV, there is no reasonable way to know if the battery is near the end of its life. The result is a market where demands are low and trust is nonexistent. Dealers saw this first: better not to have those cars on the lot.
Germany Closes Nuclear Plants, Ties Itself to Gas, Yields Cars to China
Industrial background weighs more than technological factors. The prevailing view in the debate is that betting on EVs equates to dismantling Germany's largest industry—automotive—in favor of Chinese manufacturers, who compete with batteries and production capacity at a scale Europe cannot match. According to one participant, Berlin demolished its nuclear plants, became dependent on Russian gas, and after supply cuts entered a drift that hit its industrial fabric hard. Banning combustion engines where Germany had years of advantage is, for this school of thought, a form of self-immolation.
And signals point in that direction. Mercedes-Benz's CEO has criticized Brussels' climate obsession and called for removing the deadline for combustion engines, warning that otherwise the sector will crash into a wall at full estimulante ilegal.
What Does an EV Really Cost Compared to Diesel?
Here the arithmetic doesn't add up, according to calculations repeated in the thread. A mid-to-high-range EV cost around €50,000, about €20,000 more than its combustion equivalent. The usual defense—charging electricity is much cheaper than filling a tank—crashes against depreciation: compensating for that premium would require an impossible lifespan, and just as break-even approached, the battery would need replacing while the diesel keeps running.
The market's own measuring stick was already set: switching from petrol to diesel only paid off starting from a €3,000 premium and over 20,000 kilometers per year. If such a small differential needs so many kilometers to be profitable, the €20,000 jump for an EV cannot be sustained by charging savings arguments. The admitted exception: having a private parking spot connected to your own meter and a second combustion car at home.
Netherlands Turns Subsidy into Quarterly Payment
Incentives transform into penalties, according to a participant. The Netherlands would withdraw road tax bonuses for EVs, meaning a Tesla would go from paying nothing to paying between €400 and €500 every three months due to its excessive weight. The battery, once a selling argument, becomes the item inflating the bill.
It is not the only regulatory front. It is claimed several countries already ban these vehicles from underground parking lots, and the reason given is not whimsical: difficult-to-extinguish fires that spread rapidly in enclosed spaces, to the point where, according to these accounts, firefighters cannot enter. For those living in blocks with community garages, the doubt is significant.
Timeline Delays and Hybrids Fill the Gap
Deadlines are shifting. According to a participant, the combustion engine ban set for 2025 has moved to 2030, and the sector itself points to 2035 as the next station, with no guarantee it will be met. Each delay is a confession: the technology is not where it was promised.
While hypothetical solid-state batteries arrive, hybrids take the market. This option is cited as the most logical for city drivers, traffic jams, and roads limited to 90 km/h, and is what manufacturers who bet everything on plug-in tech are choosing. Rumors circulate that Ford might suspend its EV plan in Valencia to announce a new hybrid evolution; the alternative, in that scenario, would be direct closure. Hydrogen still hasn't taken hold: attributed costs far exceed Tesla's, evaporation in tanks, compression expenses, and fuel cells with questionable lifespans.
Charging Gridlock and Those Who Won't Let Go of Diesel
Hours-long queues at charging points during holiday travel did the rest. The calculation used in the debate is that 1,000-kilometer ranges and 5-15 minute charges would be needed for EVs to truly displace combustion engines. Today, according to a participant, a model declaring nearly 700 kilometers in city use is considered sufficient for urban trips but not long journeys. And some have decided not to move at all: drivers keeping a 2004 diesel with under 100,000 kilometers, impeccable, who don't plan to sell it even if they can't enter city centers.
That's where the analysis stalls. Regulation stays on the calendar, manufacturers stop pushing, the charging network doesn't convince, and the used market—which decides if a car holds value outside the dealership—has voted no. No one has yet explained at what price, and in how many years, this stops being a problem.
Summary of a discussion on Burbuja.info - Foro de economía, actualidad y política., translated from Spanish and reviewed before publication.
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