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EPSV: deducting €2,000 a year but paying 60% tax at withdrawal
A saver asks whether deducting €2,000 a year in an EPSV is worth it: withdrawing €80,000 means €48,000 is taxed and the bill wipes out a decade of tax savings.
EPSV: deducting €2,000 a year only to pay 60% tax at withdrawal
A saver has spent five years putting in the maximum deductible amount into an EPSV (a Basque employment pension plan) from BBK and has run into some awkward arithmetic: if he withdraws €80,000 in a lump sum after ten years, €32,000 is exempt and the other €48,000 is added to his taxable income for that year. The question he raises — is the annual tax saving worth it, or is it just deferring payment with money sitting idle for a decade? — has no single answer, and that's where the problem begins.
According to one participant in the debate, the product is sold as a retirement plan, but its real function is something else: locking in the customer and generating deductions for years. What almost nobody calculates is the final bill.
How much is paid on the €48,000 withdrawn
The practical example that frames the case is clear: annual contributions of the maximum deductible amount — around €2,000, some €20,000 in total — and a full withdrawal in year ten. The 40% exemption is €32,000; the remaining 60%, €48,000, inflates the taxable base of the income tax (IRPF) for the year the money is recovered. Add a gross salary of around €24,000 and the marginal rate shoots up, with the bill potentially around 20-22% of all the money withdrawn, according to the calculation circulating in the conversation.
The conclusion drawn: it's a wash. A decade of tax savings goes to the Tax Agency in a single tax year. Deferring taxes, which is not the same as paying less.
Withdraw it all at once or stagger the withdrawal?
Here comes the strategy some defend: not withdrawing 100%, but half. With €25,000 withdrawn, €10,000 is exempt and €15,000 is added to employment income; of that, reinvesting €8,000 in a new plan would leave the real burden at €8,000. The problem is that the 40% exemption applies to the withdrawal as a whole, and splitting it incorrectly can forfeit the benefit. The repeated recommendation: request a binding ruling from the Tax Agency, which is free.
The ten-year trap and multiple EPSVs
According to one participant, the minimum ten-year period can only be used once. Someone with several EPSVs who withdraws from three — what happens to the remaining seven? Neither Surne nor BBK could give a clear answer. The suspicion that the salespeople don't fully understand the rules hangs over the conversation. A real case partially dismantles this: transferring a six-year EPSV into a ten-year one to merge them preserves the seniority and allows withdrawal without problems. The case-by-case rules, they admit, are complicated.
Is it worth continuing to contribute?
The decision of the person who peine the case: make no further contributions. "To have the money sitting there idle, I'd rather manage it myself, spend it or burn it." Five years remain until withdrawal, along with the feeling of having been financing the bank with no clear return. The question remains open: is there any scenario where the EPSV wins out for the taxpayer? Only if the marginal rate at withdrawal is lower than in the year of the contribution. And that, on an average salary, rarely happens.
Summary of a discussion on Burbuja.info - Foro de economía, actualidad y política., translated from Spanish and reviewed before publication.
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